Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #44

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  1. GeorgiaRai

    GeorgiaRai Well-Known Member

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    Just adding my thoughts on this! A defendant can either (a) plead guilty or (b) NOT plead guilty so the phrase "plead not guilty" is kind of a misnomer. Pleading guilty waives the right to a trial; it's not part of sworn trial testimony, so it's not perjury even if the person committed the crime. At least that's my understanding.
     
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    I am also sure he knew about the tazing by AC of JR
     
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    Yes, I think we were all horrified by reading the affidavit and the possibilities it describes. I feel so terrible for the victims in this case. MOO
     
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    I have always been of the understanding that when you pled not guilty that is not saying you didn't do said crime it just states you don't think the govt has enough evidence to prove your guilt beyond reasonable doubt.
     
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    RexburgSleuth Verified Friend of Daybell Family

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    He is wrong. Oldest son lived in the home. He posted about it on FB night of "paintball" gun incident. Please find the link where Nate Eaton says otherwise.

    ETA: Source for my information: me.
     
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    That story was too much. I can't bear to think they were tortured in any manner before their death. Especially JJ. I have boys and he has a special place in my heart.
     
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    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    To add to that, you can then click the button on top that says "GO TO FIRST UNREAD"
    That will take you to where you left off :)
     
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    The judge signed an order yesterday approving photography at the hearing, so I would think it's going ahead.

    06/22/2020 Order - Request to Obtain Approval to Video/Audio Record, Broadcast or Photograph a Court Proceeding - Post Register
     
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    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    GeorgiaRai Well-Known Member

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    That's not my understanding. I think anyone can choose not to plead guilty - even if they believe there is a solid, provable case against them but they still want to take their chances with the judge/jury.
     
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    Thank you, Kimmer. I cannot imagine the pain you have suffered, but thank you for letting us know about this.
     
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    Oh Kimmer—- I am so sorry. I hope you have been able to replace those horrible images with only good ones in your mind. Your insight is valuable but I’m so sorry you’ve experienced this enormous loss.

    Do we know when exactly Alex quit his job? @Jankee Do you have any insight on that date? I also wonder if it was a voluntary quit?
     
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    Dbm
     
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    Whew!!! I’m SO glad. I mean, it’s still horrible, and I hope that doesn’t end up being the case, but I’m more than happy to know he misspoke. Thank you so much!
     
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    Got it. Thanks :)
     
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    THANK YOU!!! I was freaking out.
     
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    THANK YOU!!! I’m relieved.
     
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    I appreciate your comments thank you :)
     
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    *Discussing sensitive and potentially gruesome stuff for some!!


    So sorry for being so gruesome before noon, but just going back through some things. I think I may be leaning towards suffocation for JJ. The time between his last sighting and what seems to be the amount of time when he was buried seems like it could be too short unless it was a very, very acute poisoning.
    I’m still really stuck on Tylee. I do think Nate had it right with the dismemberment, but obviously as he stated not the timing. It seems like that would have had to be done to burn the remains. I’m still stuck with where and who. That’s not a quick and easy thing to do.
    Jmo
     
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    I'm way behind and try to catch up. I do want to comment on this post #356
    Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #43

    As small as the word "the" is in this rambling statement from SS, it bothers me. That word implies that she knows the reasons and may in some way agree with them. They are not LV's reasons, but "the" reasons.

    JMO, MOO
     
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