Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #44

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  1. wenwe4

    wenwe4 Well-Known Member

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    Happy birthday Lori Vallow - you get to enjoy a fresh orange jumpsuit, white socks, plastic shoes, and dinner on a plastic tray with disposable utensils. I am hoping they served lumpy mush for breakfast, bologna for lunch and mystery meat for dinner. Mmmmm - everything is gray and tasteless.
    IMO
     
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    second source: me
     
  3. JolietJake

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    I took this image from your post and cropped it for this post but it's better seen on your HD picture. If you look closely at the yellow circled item you may see what looks like a skull. At first I was taken aback but as I compared the size of the object to the head of one of the searching crewmen, you'll see that if it is a skull, it's much smaller than a human skull and may be from a small dog (or a raccoon.... yeah sure, Chad). It may even be nothing but a pile of debris that happens to look like a skull. Anyway, I thought I'd post this in case someone notices this and thinks it is human. It's just way too small.
     

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  4. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    I wonder what "meds" LVD was talking about then when she supposedly told the nanny that she gives JJ his meds early so he'll go to sleep early to give her a break. ??? I assumed it was the Risperidone but perhaps she had something else to give him and this might be what was given to both JJ and Tylee to "put them to sleep"
    JJ Vallow's former nanny reveals last conversations with Lori Vallow
     
  5. Michael0808

    Michael0808 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting question!
     
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    I think in itself given as prescribed it could cause drowsiness though.
     
  7. wenwe4

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    IIRC JJ was also diagnosed with ADD/ADHD, If so he may have been prescribed stimulants to be better able to function at school. I have seen children overdosed (unintentionally and during med trials) on stimulants fall asleep in class. Could it be that he also had other Rx's that have not been disclosed to the public? I doubt this would work on Tylee unless she also struggled with the same issues and Rx's.
    Another thought is an injection of potassium chloride (which could stop the heart) may be one way of administering death without being detectable in an autopsy. Just throwing out some thoughts here.

    ETA: Benedryl is available OTC and often knocks people out or makes them sleepy. It could be that LVD made the kids their favorite juice "smoothie" before bed. (Since she co-owned the juice shack in Hawaii).
     
  8. Michael0808

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    Good questions! So much to consider and speculate on in this case. I wish the autopsy results were going to be faster.
     
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    I don't think we know all of the details about the search in Kauai but it did not appear the police searched the room.
     
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    This rings true.
     
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  11. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    Thank you for your service !!
    Good to know about the time zones also.
     
  12. vislaw

    vislaw Verified Forensic Consultant

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    I've reached out to Mr. Roark, who appears to be the operator/photographer. I'm hopeful I can obtain more imagery from his overflight so I can process photogrammetrically. Stay tuned.
     
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    Awesome as per usual :)
     
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    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    BBM
    Agree
    My sister opened up quite a few credit cards in my mom's name after my dad passed.
    She ran them all the way up to limit--including a few trips out west.
    Mom had Alzheimer's and I was POA
    I filed a police report however the Prosecuting Attorney chose not to prosecute. Why, I have no idea
    Fast forward 3 yrs, she did the same thing to her daughter, my niece, who filed a police report.
    Well, now we have 2 reports so they prosecuted.
    If they had done it the first time, then the 2nd time wouldn't have happened, IMO.
    Sheesh. just common sense
     
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    My son has Autism and ADHD. At one time he was prescribed Risperidone to help him sleep. He wasn't on it long before I asked for an alternative. He was almost zombie-like on the Risperidone and I didn't think the extra sleep he got from it was worth the side effects.
     
  16. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    Enabler, codependent-- alcoholic or drug abuse
    Apparently if you are a family member of someone going through any type of abuse or mental disorder, they ask you to go through these classes.
    I did learn a lot and I did learn how not to enable.
     
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    Thank you for that knowledge I had no idea and could not wrap my mind around that time
     
  18. TexieLouWho21

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    Wouldn't buy that for 25cents at a yard sale. Just sayin. Thsts my honest opinion!
     
  19. KonaHonu

    KonaHonu Well-Known Member

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    Jankee answered that yesterday. August. Voluntary. He was getting counseling over CV's death.
     
  20. Gigi3

    Gigi3 Well-Known Member

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    I thought she suggested that he get counseling? Or was he really getting counseling?

    If the latter, then perhaps he was feeling some remorse, but why continue to do LVDs bidding?
    So many questions!! MOO

    Never mind, I see he was supposedly seeing a therapist. Wonder if that was true and if it was someone within their “group”?
     
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