IL IL - Alsip, BlkFem, 17-25, UP8511 found Cal-Sag Canal Sep'80

[Moonwalker9]

Could not find this JD case posted before so here it is.

Could this murder be related to Grundy County Jane Doe, both were found close to each otherin Illinois with a 4 year span 76-80 both young black females and both bound. Just speculating.

Warning PM photo

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Case Numbers
NCMEC Number--
ME/C Case Number556 Sep 1980
Demographics
SexFemale
Race / EthnicityBlack / African American
Possible First Name--
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last Name--
Possible Nickname--
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years)17-25
Estimated Year of Death1980
Estimated PMI--
Height5' 6"(66 inches) , Measured
Weight133 lbs, Measured
Circumstances
TypeUnidentified Deceased
Date FoundSeptember 23, 1980
NamUs Case CreatedFebruary 14, 2011
ME/C QA ReviewedFebruary 15, 2011
Location Found Map
Street AddressCalumet-Sag CanalAlsip, Illinois
CountyCook County
GPS Coordinates--
Circumstances of RecoveryJane Doe was found floating in the Cal-Sag Canal in the South Suburbs of Chicago, IL. (Cook County). Her hands were bound and she had multiple stab wounds to her body.
Details of Recovery


Inventory of RemainsAll parts recovered
Condition of RemainsRecognizable face
Physical Description
Hair ColorBlack
Head Hair DescriptionShort and Curly
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye ColorBrown
Right Eye ColorBrown
Eye Description--
Distinctive Physical Features
No Known Information



Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Accessories
There were two sponge hair rollers found near her body which is believed to have been worn by the female.
Near the Body

Clothing
Navy Blue Zip-up sweater, Black Sweat shirt
On the Body

Jewelry
She wore a silver ring on the third finger of her left hand, a gold earring in the shape of a spade in her left ear, and a gold crescent shaped earring in her right ear.
On the Body

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[Moonwalker9]

The only possible match I could find is

Beverly Bealer but I not convinced it's her. Height, age and date of missing is simular though. However she dissapeared from California.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
3825DFCA - Beverly Ann Bealer

 

[creepedout]

I wish there was a better image of - and a means of comparing - Cherita Thomas:

1139DFMI - Cherita Janice Thomas
Cherita Janice Thomas – The Charley Project
Former logger arrested for suspected 1980 murder

An individual was arrested in her case, but the details seem murky. Also, the image in Namus and others appears "squashed" and is marginal quality at best.

 

[iulia]

355UFIL

Identifiers

Dentals: Not available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Not available

 

[Moonwalker9]

Let's bump this one

From doenetwork
355UFIL

Date of Discovery: September 23, 1980
Location of Discovery: Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
Estimated Date of Death: Less than a week prior
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Homicide by stabbing

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 17-25 years old
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 130-135 lbs.
Hair Color: Black, short and curly with a reddish tint.
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

Identifiers
Dentals: Not available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Not available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: A blue sweater, a tan bra, and a navy blue zipper sweater which may have had a floral print.
Jewelry: She wore a silver ring on her left ring finger, a gold earring in the shape of a spade in her left ear, and a gold crescent shaped earring in her right ear.
Additional Personal Items: Red or pink hair comb. There were two sponge hair rollers found near the body which the victim was also believed to have been wearing.

Circumstances of Discovery
On September 23, 1980, the victim was found in the Calumet-Sag Canal in the south Chicago suburbs.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Cook County Medical Examiner
Agency Contact Person: Freddie Summers
Agency Phone Number: 312-666-0500 ext. 2230
Agency E-Mail: summers82(at)yahoo.com
Agency Case Number: 556 Sep 1980

Agency Name: Illinois State Police Zone 1 Investigations
Agency Contact Person: Special Agent Jim Tsambikou
Agency Phone Number: 1-847-294-4590
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: Unknown

NCIC Case Number: U214845229
NamUs Case Number: 8511
NCMEC Case Number: 1106799

Information Source(s)
NamUs
NCMEC

 

[cheemsg]

Huh, I thought this was quite a well-known case, but there isn't much on it.
She's mentioned in this article but not in much detail, I don't have a subscription so I can't make a clipping.
Chicago Tribune from Chicago, Illinois on September 24, 1980 · 21
I really don't think she was ever reported missing, or at least a missing person report doesn't exist.
And since her PM is so clear, if anybody filed a report for her years later it would instantly be recognised as that PM pic.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Huh, I thought this was quite a well-known case, but there isn't much on it.
She's mentioned in this article but not in much detail, I don't have a subscription so I can't make a clipping.
Chicago Tribune from Chicago, Illinois on September 24, 1980 · 21
I really don't think she was ever reported missing, or at least a missing person report doesn't exist.

Body found in Sag Channel
The partly decomposed body of a woman, her hands and feet bound, was found floating in the Calumet Sag Channel near south suburban Alsip Tuesday, according to police. The unidentified woman, who appeared to be in her early 20s, was spotted by Illinois Tollway maintenance workers

 

[miss_justice]

Debra Venessa Townsel could be a math. The information regarding the date she disappeared is conflicting, July 1 or September 27.

 

[cheemsg]

Debra Venessa Townsel could be a math. The information regarding the date she disappeared is conflicting, July 1 or September 27.

I don't think she looks anything like the morgue photo. I mean the best thing a sleuth could do here is look at yearbooks from like 1973-1980 in Illinois and see if her photo is there. If she didn't graduate, 1969-1980.

 

[cheemsg]

I've checked 2 Chicago yearbooks so far:

Alton High School Tatler Yearbook 1973 : Alton High School : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive 1973 seniors.

Alton High School Tatler Yearbook 1974 : Alton High School : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
1974 seniors. Cynthia M. Cameron on page 34 has an absolutely uncanny resemblance to the morgue photo.

 

[Caring1]

Beverly Ann Bealer was last seen in Santa Monica, CA on August 20, 1980, one month before UID was found.

5' 4" (64 Inches)
Weight 115 lbs
19 yrs old

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[cheemsg]

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Beverly Ann Bealer was last seen in Santa Monica, CA on August 20, 1980, one month before UID was found.

5' 4" (64 Inches)
Weight 115 lbs
19 yrs old

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

I was wondering if you saw my post on this thread about Cynthia M. Cameron. Do you see a resemblance?

 

[Caring1]

I was wondering if you saw my post on this thread about Cynthia M. Cameron. Do you see a resemblance?

Yes, I did see Cynthia‘s picture and was trying to enhance it to see the facial features a little more clear but also without distorting the photo.

I do see a resemblance with her nose and the shape of her mouth.

Do you have information on Cynthia? Is she a missing person?

 

[cheemsg]

Yes, I did see Cynthia‘s picture and was trying to enhance it to see the facial features a little more clear but also without distorting the photo.

I do see a resemblance with her nose and the shape of her mouth.

Do you have information on Cynthia? Is she a missing person?

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Thanks for the enhanced version. I've been looking on Newspapers to find anything but nothing. Nothing online about her either being missing or still alive. If she was the Doe, she'd have been 24 when she died and possibly married so might have had a different last name.
I think the resemblance is uncanny, and it's just an interesting place to start. But if she's completely fine I don't want to invade her privacy.

 

[cocomod]

@Solvingcases is new and has suggested a match for this UID with Christine Daniels Namus MP#74478. I am trying to help them find their way around WS!

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[fimogenfeels]

Yes, I did see Cynthia‘s picture and was trying to enhance it to see the facial features a little more clear but also without distorting the photo.

I do see a resemblance with her nose and the shape of her mouth.

Do you have information on Cynthia? Is she a missing person?

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I think it's absolutely possible that this is the Doe. I especially see it with the nose. Is there a way she can be ruled out just in case? This Doe case always bothered me.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

I think it's absolutely possible that this is the Doe. I especially see it with the nose. Is there a way she can be ruled out just in case? This Doe case always bothered me.

First it is important to know if Cynthia is a missing person or not.

 

[subaw0067]

Mary Ann Hutchinson was recently added to NAMUS. She went missing from Evanston, Illinois in July of 1979 at the age of 20. The height and weight are off but there are some visual similarities.

 

[Aurora90]

Mary Ann Hutchinson was recently added to NAMUS. She went missing from Evanston, Illinois in July of 1979 at the age of 20. The height and weight are off but there are some visual similarities.

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Does she have a websleuths page?

 

[fimogenfeels]

Bumping this Doe, I think about her often </3 I wish Othram could take this case on.