Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #2

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  1. Simply Southern

    Simply Southern Well-Known Member

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    Oh, they will never ever, not in a million years have custody. I doubt they ever see their kids again.
    They will never see the outside of prison walls as long as they live!!!!
     
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  2. floridagrrl

    floridagrrl Forever in debt to priceless advice

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    I did wonder why they bothered to even call the police, they didn't give a flip, they had to have known they would be found out. But you are right, this is probably why. Just like with Casey Anthony, she would have never contacted the police until her nosy mother butted in. Gah, the evil in this world!
     
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    darmela Well-Known Member

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    In looking at their mugshots, there is an emptiness in both of their eyes. They're devoid of emotion. God only knows what poor little Andrew went through, but at least their other sons will have a chance at a normal life. So glad they're behind bars where they belong!
     
  4. TTF14

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    So sad to hear this news. *sigh* Another one :(.
     
  5. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I thought the very same thing, even the photos are hauntingly similar. So sad.
     
  6. Breazy

    Breazy Member

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    Haven't posted in a very long time but have jumped in from time to time and have followed this case since it's inception. Thank you all for keeping me in the know when I was able to get here. Bless this sweet child and may he fly with the angels!!
     
  7. mju8

    mju8 Active Member

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    Based on the dogs being in the home and the police going in with a warrant and taking out a good deal of evidence multiple times, does it seem unlikely to anyone else that AJ died by assault? With assault to the point of death I think blood, yet why did the dogs nor anyone else find evidence or indications of blood over the course of the past 6 days?
     
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  8. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, JMO but this baby will most likely be born with plenty of drugs in her system.
     
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    Also, it makes sense why they removed the shovel, bags of dirt, and tub/container. However, why remove the mattress?
     
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    lonetraveler Well-Known Member

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    Hey, I like the name. ;):D
     
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  11. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Well-Known Member

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    I'm wondering where the shovel was located and why it wasn't found earlier.
     
  12. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Well-Known Member

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    Possibly he died on that mattress after they beat him??
     
  13. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    Oops I mean wouldn’t.
     
  14. Herat

    Herat Well-Known Member

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    I think basic forensics to determine if there had been evidence of cleaning of blood, evidence of drugs, maybe some determination of decomposition fluids, or other material to evaluate the time of death. It's not difficult to move and LE would likely want to secure it as evidence now against the statements of the parents

    They don't have any autopsy reports yet, but the child's mattress would be a logical place be where AJ was placed when he was injured, moribund, or deceased.
     
  15. Simply Southern

    Simply Southern Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure why they didn't take on the first search warrant. I've seen this in other cases. I think it depends on the scope of the search warrant. They have to have proof of a crime/reasonable suspicion to get a search warrant and I'm thinking it list what they are searching for. We have lots of laws related to search and seizure.
     
  16. Shadowtrix

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    Parents may have given him something, he went to bed and didn't wake up in the morning.

    I hope they'll be able to determine the exact cause of death as others have said.
     
  17. Only4Justice

    Only4Justice Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your post.

    If we can’t take care of our own children, if shows our attention is in the wrong place.

    I was abused by a stepfather at age 10,
    And I remember the helplessness. Even though things are out in the open now (it wasn’t discussed when I was a child in the 60-70s. Children were “meant to be seen and not heard “)

    This poor little boy only
    Wanted someone to love and protect him.

    Our system is
    Broken.
     
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    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    And typically (thankfully so) about as ignorant and cruel than they know. Lock 'em up.
     
  19. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Innocent Bystander

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    Absolute fury!

    Rest easy sweet AJ. No more fear, no more pain, no more cold, no more hunger.

    %$#@!
     
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    Yes, that's correct. It depends on what the search warrant was for/what was allowed. They can be pretty specific.
     
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