Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

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  1. RainCheck

    RainCheck Active Member

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    Yes, you can tell he did and they loved each other very much. I’m sure big brother will wrestle with a lifetime of guilt not being able to save his baby brother. The pain caused by JC and Sr is far reaching.
     
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    After she participated in parenting & drug classes someone considered her safe & cured.
     
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    RainCheck Active Member

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    It really doesn’t make sense though. She lost custody of TWO children based on severe abuse and neglect! You shouldn’t get third chances when it comes to this. I think giving this dysfunctional and violent couple a chance was the mistake. Never should have happened. Any child she had should have been removed at birth.
     
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    I think she retained custody of AJ only as retaliation. Had she given him up, everyone would have left her alone, she could have lived how she wished.
    She had things to prove, to someone.
    IMO, there’s a lot of psychology factored in.
    If you research bipolar with addiction, it is very difficult to treat, not that she was being treated. She was a menace to society, a murderer ready to strike, imo.
     
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    Ita! She should not been allowed a second chance.
    Even the fact AJ was sent home from ER is disturbing.
    Had they kept both boys overnight, they might have opened up, becoming more talkative. Jmo

    I wonder if the haircut date is the first day AJ was able to get up after 03-04 beating. The day she “felt blessed”. Imagine his fear when she caped him up & used clippers on his already sore head......
     
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    A Priest was at the home a few days ago.
    I hope that the home is demolished and all that is stigmatized removed.

    Even though this home is world news, Realtors do not have to disclose the property as stigmatized. Slim chance a buyer would not know what took place there.

    I am hoping that the buyer will raise the home and that a memorial is put into place there.
     
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    Was the eldest son required by court order to visit JC?
     
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    No one in their right mind would buy that place.
    I’m struggling to think of anyone living in that basement.....of course they were troubled according to reports.

    JC won’t have to worry about lack of water, electric, improperly stacked dishes or her hair & nails again.
     
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    What’s most heartbreaking is at his age, he believed whatever he was told by his parents. He believed he was worthless, incompetent and deserving of what was done to him and judging from what he told the ER “maybe Mommy didn’t mean to hurt me” he believed he caused his mother to hurt him. Poor boy. Poor little one
     
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    No, his grandmother received full custody with no rights of any kind for JC. He never had to see his mother again if he didn’t want to.
     
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    One early msm mentioned gma taking A for supervised visits, maybe press was wrong & retracted article.

    I personally think it not safe to be in the Dole dwelling without a facial mask & maybe a gun.
     
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    Do any of you think JC will receive a jailhouse visit from Her mom or A?

    I hope she does not. IMO, it’s too easy for family to forgive or to believe their relative is being blamed for actions of another.
     
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    Yep, that’s right where I am too. IMO the parents enjoyed the sensation of relieving their own anger and frustrations on an innocent little boy who couldn’t fight back.

    I also believe they didn’t think - period - about whether or not AJ would live or die as they don’t seem capable of thinking into the future.

    MOO
     
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    Had AJ not died from his last beating, I think they were going to have to kill him. I don’t believe a full recovery was possible & they sure didn’t plan to seek medical attention for him.
     
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    So disturbing that two adult humans, and neither one with enough heart to stand up for a 5 year old! Neither one cared about their own child! The majority of people would intervene is they saw an animal being beaten, yet these two felt they had the right to continuous and purposefully torture and beat an innocent child!! Neither deserve to take their own next breath, IMO!
     
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    IMO, they didn't want him to die, ONLY because they wanted to continue to be able to torture him. The only purpose for them wanting him around was to beat him. Otherwise they would have let grandparents raise him, or someone that would have loved him.
     
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    Yup! They both enjoyed inflicting torturous beatings.
    No matter how they try to finger point the other, they are both murderers. If not, one would have called 911 the first time AJ was attacked & there would never have been #2, 19, 30....
     
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    It’s very possible this was the case when she was given temporary custody but once gma won full custody she was no longer required to. She was given sole physical and legal custody.
     
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    Can someone help me with info? I keep reading here that AJ was burned by having boiling water poured on him. But I’ve never seen any msm reports about this, nor info in the DCFS reports I’ve read.

    Does anyone know the source of this info? TIA.
     
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