IL IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019

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  1. flute4peace

    flute4peace Well-Known Member

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    Off-topic and no disrespect intended, but does anyone know what ethnicity Mr. Kililis would be? I'm really intrigued by his accent. I'm sorry, I realize this is fluff and obviously unimportant compared to finding AJ.

    I feel like Mom is more "hinky" to me than Dad, but wouldn't be surprised if both are involved in something, if not the disappearance itself.

    Do we know if the dog hit on the trunk was a tracking dog or a cadaver dog? I guess either way, it's not good.

    Praying the judge in the younger sibling case is able to keep him safe.
     
  2. Momofbeau

    Momofbeau Well-Known Member

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    I think the dogs are trained enough to smell for presence of an actual person... That’s a good question though.
     
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  3. Momofbeau

    Momofbeau Well-Known Member

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    He’s greek
     
  4. wary

    wary Well-Known Member

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    Would they use that terminology for a blood test?
     
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  5. Simply Southern

    Simply Southern Well-Known Member

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    Yes, reported facts
    • Mother does not work
    • House is in disarray
    • Child/drug Abuse-- 7 months pregnant, and on drugs, has agree to rehab.
    • Refusing to cooperate.... full body search on Sat., I wonder if this was court ordered?
    • Put child to bed in street clothes and tenny shoes
    • Lawyered up -- and clearly is no condition to speak at the pressers, attorney advised her to no longer speak to LE.
    Hum....
     
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  6. Simply Southern

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    Most full body searches are conducted prior to incarceration, for drugs and contraband. I wonder if this was a pled deal on precious charges. I can not imagine her lawyer would allow otherwise. No word on what was found. Not sure what the laws are in IL on prenatal drug abuse.
     
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    Momofbeau Well-Known Member

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  8. flute4peace

    flute4peace Well-Known Member

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    Thank you!
     
  9. SausagePizza

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    Who knows how long this poor boy has really been missing? When was he actually seen last by someone else besides the parents?
     
  10. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    Riiiiiiiiight.
    Must have been those damn investigators wrecking the house that busted out all the windows,and it's stressing her out so awful bad. The poor thing is in such a state. She's so torn up about it. It's all the investigators fault that she stopped cooperating.
    MOO
     
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    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    Well pretty lax being that Andrew was born with opiates in his system,and they gave him back to her.
    MOO.
     
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    Tippy Lynn Well-Known Member

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    That and possibly any visible marks on her body that could indicate she was involved in an altercation.
    jmo
     
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    LietKynes Well-Known Member

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    SABBM
    Ok--Just about died laughing.
    Your post was hilarious ! Thx. :)

    A little levity in a very horrific case of abuse and neglect.

    So often in this case I'm reminded of Adrian Jones.
    Background of past and current drug use by the (in his case, stepmother) parents and a filthy home.
    There was never any chance for AJ and his younger brother.
     
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    Somebody said she had prior arrest maybe part of probation conditions that is if she was and still on probation.

    Does bio Dad work since he was disbarred? If so maybe that’s why they never got married so she could receive public assistance? I’m not sure how that works in that state. Anyone know?
     
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    i actually have not seen that. i do see it sometimes but i don't think its a high percentage.
     
  16. Simply Southern

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    Good thought , didn't think of that!!!
     
  17. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    The house is in foreclosure. I have two friends that work for the county and many lose public assistance section 8 housing, food stamps etc for doing drugs after being arrested. Not everyone but many.
     
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    This makes sense! When I initially thought of 'body search' I was thinking body CAVITY search and for the life of me, couldn't think of a valid reason why they'd do that.
     
  19. OhThatVictoria

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    Since Mom and Dad are having financial issues, I’m curious if Mom visits an area food pantry? I volunteer at one and am accustomed to regulars on the day I’m there. We have lots of Moms who come in with little ones. LE might want to check on that to learn if she’s visited one in the area, lately, and if she had the kids with her.
     
  20. Simply Southern

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    TANF is a federal program and requires you must name the baby dad. They will usually test up to 3 or 4 BD's. This is so funds can be recouped from the child's father in child support. It does NOT affect Medicaid and Food Stamp benefits.

    It may take years to recoup, some until Social Security kicks in, and they can garnish SSA but not SSI.

    Edited to correct... It does NOT affect FS and Medicaid, sorry folks.
     
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