IL IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019

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  1. Henry2326

    Henry2326 Well-Known Member

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    Welcome! Read this and speculate away......I wouldn't call it bashing after reading this. As Tippy Lynn says, we recognize patterns that have specific results. This is possibly one of those times.
    IMO, this board is open to opinions but you might want to do your homework. :)

    Hope the link works for you. I've run out of free views st Northwest Herald.

    Documents: 2013 complaint against parents of missing Crystal Lake boy | Northwest Herald
     
  2. Henry2326

    Henry2326 Well-Known Member

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    Duchess- might you have info in the trash pickup schedule in the area?
     
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    With AJ missing, I see no way under the heavens a judge would even, for one minute think of returning him to the parents.

    I've never seen so much, detailed information about the CPS and LE reporting and the outcomes. Being the policy nerd, I read the FOIA for abuse and yes, IL, Director of Human Services can make the decision to release. This case is definitely being managed at a state level.

    The younger brother was removed under a protective order, issued by a judge.
    This means the police will protect this child and they will not be able to see him, except supervised.

    Sleep well, little A, you are safe.
     
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  4. Henry2326

    Henry2326 Well-Known Member

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    [QUOTE="Simply Southern, post: 15006402, member: 233514"

    The younger brother was removed under a protective order, issued by a judge.
    This means the police will protect this child and they will not be able to see him, except supervised.[/QUOTE]

    YAY!!!!
     
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    osu Well-Known Member

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    I ran out of free views there too. I found that if you clear the History/Cache on your computer or device, it will allow you to read articles again. :)
     
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    Ita ! :(

    Bumping. People should read this before jumping to the defense of the parents.
    Chilling stuff of nightmares.

    They left the older brother with a high fever and vomiting and went out to party.
    They never sought medical help for him.
    He might be 'missing' as well if he'd stayed there and had he not been rescued.
    I am done with this vile pair.

    So sad if that helpless younger brother is forced back into that house of horrors.
    Not to mention the poor unborn baby.
     
  7. Henry2326

    Henry2326 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a ton OSU!!
     
  8. Stunned

    Stunned Your past explains you, It does not excuse you

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    Sadly I have seen brothers returned twice. They are now in Foster care for the 3rd time. One brother went through brain cancer while mommy and daddy where in prison. They just don’t get it. They get each other and meth. Ohhhh! Big news they are trying for a girl!
     
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    Just read, this appears to be an excerpt from a custody petition. Maybe the grandparents filed for parental custody. It seems well documented. That's the key to these things ...its all in the detail and be very specific.

    Looks like they won!!!!
     
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    I have never figured out why bad Mothers continue to have more children. Do they like being pregnant? Do they like the attention of having a new baby? Are they just lazy and don't take birth control?

    Reminds me of Diane Downs, who shot her children, and was pregnant AGAIN during her trial!
     
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    @Snoopgal Yes!!! The mom not remember what happened the night before gave me chills. That's just heartbreaking! Did the same thing happen when AJ went missing? Did she do something to him and can't remember? Did the Dad? Who is covering for who or is it both are covering.

    After reading the documents, I'm sick. All 4 kids deserve better. (That includes the newborn, btw) . I wonder if DCFS will suggest foster care so the parents can try to rehabilitate, yet again, or determine that the 4-year old (which I thought he was 3) and eventually the newborn are better off permanently placed in a home.

    Does anyone know if P was born with opiates in his system?
     
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    Bolding Mine

    No, you're not way off in that thinking. Unfortunately.

    Drug users will do literally anything to get $$ for another 'high'.
    We've seen it here and we've read about it in msm.
    People pimp out their own kids, and others have beat their victims to a literal pulp to get what they want.
    AJ could've been long gone before the parents made their odd 911 call.
     
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    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    treats? They didn't even buy them food most of the time, if prior history is any indication. :(
     
  15. Stunned

    Stunned Your past explains you, It does not excuse you

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    I sometimes think they don’t know how bad they suck at parenthood. It’s all they know.
     
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    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    I hope you are right. I really do.
     
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    AJ is a little boy with a beautiful smile. Prayers for AJ
     
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    Right there with you guys
     
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    I've worked with drug dependant moms, they tend to be there happiest when pregnant. The moms are high risk and a lot are already working to get their previous kids back from CPS. They never worry about cribs, clothes, bottles, or any other need. Social Services, a church, someone will give them everything they need, and delivery it. There's most always a social or mental health worker making all the preparations

    For the life of me. I can't figure it out. I was preparing and worrying from the minute I found out.
     
  20. Henry2326

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    KM- yes you are.....good to see ya.

    Might you have any info on trash pickup in that area? The specific day?
     
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