IL IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019

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  1. asmi106082

    asmi106082 Well-Known Member

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    Someone said previously in this thread that trash pickup is on fridays.

    AJ's little brother is "P".
     
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  2. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm good question maybe to get more money in food stamps to buy drugs? They obviously used money for drugs instead of feeding the hungry kids. Maybe AJ ran away to find food. I would say run AJ run for your life I’ll save you. I’m here baby.

    Why only two photos posted of AJ? one with a baseball cap and the other one he looks gaunt with dark circles and eyes sunk deep in the sockets. Maybe these the best she has.
     
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    Henry2326 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you very much. It could play into the timeline somewhere down the road.
     
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  4. kmartin96

    kmartin96 Member since 2008

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    No, not sure about their trash pickup day. I went in search of the info online, struck out there too.

    I was out and about tonight, and drove by the residence on my way home. So many news crews and vans still camped out.

    After reading the posted documents which reveal the filth, lack of food, leaving child home sick and/or scared.....it's just heart wrenching!!

    It's still shocking and scary what goes on behind our neighbors doors......wishing there was more we could do for these poor kids....before it's too late. =(
     
  5. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all that you do. It’s got to be a very hard job. I know your hands are tied in some cases because of stupid laws in place. I’m in CA it’s even worse here. Child murders monthly in our state.

    Since the brother P is in DCFS now does that mean food stamps and other welfare that was going for P stop since out of parents care? What about subsidy’s for AJ since he is missing not in the home does it stop for him as well?

    If it has stopped I’m sure parents flipping out they need that for their drugs.
     
  6. MsMarple

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    Whew! I had a lot of catching up to do tonight! I had a bunch of tabs open but there are too many posts that I want to quote so let me say to you all: Thanks for the links and keeping the case updated!

    And wow, dad's 911 call. So the gas station he checked appears to be a fib. And I too am waiting to read whether or not he called the school and spoke to the assistant principal.

    Dad did quite a job of letting the 911 dispatcher know how thoroughly he and AJ's mom searched. Oh and making sure the dispatcher knew he was out of the house early and so he couldn't have any idea of what happened.

    Mom's hiding behind her attorney and seems more concerned with getting her other son back. LE arrested her on a traffic warrant the day AJ was reported as missing - that's significant as we only see that in cases where LE thinks a caretaker is not telling the whole story.

    It looks like the doo doo is hitting the fan today - LE pulled out all the stops and is releasing the past history with this family. They haven't named any suspects but I think their message is pretty clear. MOO.

    We're probably getting close to a new thread so I'll repost some links for convenience:

    Police Calls to Andrew “AJ” Freund home
    Documents: 2013 complaint against parents of missing Crystal Lake boy | Northwest Herald
    Hearing to determine where missing Crystal Lake boy's brother should live continued | Kane County Chronicle
    Police reports from inside home of missing Crystal Lake boy AJ Freund tell of dog feces, broken windows, no power, drug needle
    911 call, previous police reports released as Crystal Lake 5-year-old Andrew 'AJ' Freund remains missing
     
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  7. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    That is one problem, entitlement programs are usually tied to having dependents. The Mother may be eligible for all benefits while pregnant.
     
  8. Trish51

    Trish51 Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying so hard not to be snarky but mom may be getting 3 meals a day soon and a clean place to "live." If not, she's pregnant so she'll probably still qualify for some aid (food stamps, Medicaid, and WIC). I don't know how it works in IL but here you get a debit card with you food stamps and TNFA loaded on there. I don't know what happens if they lose the card, it gets stolen, or gives it to someone. I'm sure they track that so if one has theirs "stolen" more than once that would be a red flag.
     
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    Wow! She was right on the ball when her medications were missing. Her son, not so much. She makes me sick!
     
  10. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    Geez no wonder she got pregnant maybe if they didn’t qualify for all that these loser abusive parents would stop getting pregnant and not end up in DCFS, sold or dead Ive heard people with those food stamp cards find ways to barter money from them for cash like with people filling up gas stations. I don’t know how that works but that’s what I’ve read
     
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    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    Good point.
     
  12. AgeofAquaruis

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    I noticed that too.
     
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  13. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    Those poor officers who tried to do something in December are likely devastated right now.
     
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    Why was the custodial hearing delayed until Monday?
     
  15. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    I know a woman who began getting pregnant at 16. She had 8 successful pregnancies, and gave up every one of the children, for adoption. We adopted her 8th child.

    I asked her WHY she kept getting pregnant if she wasn't planning to raise the children. She said she loved being pregnant. People showed her respect, she said. That was a big deal to her.

    Some of her children were adopted by her family members, so she does have a few of them in her life.
     
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    The Latest: Hearing about missing boy's brother continued

    A new attorney is expected to be appointed to the 4-year-old on Wednesday after a conflict of interest was found with the boy's current lawyer Tuesday.

    The judge may determine who should have custody of the child on Monday.
     
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    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    I am glad to see it confirmed that the younger sibling is 4, and not 2. A 4 yr old may have a lot of valuable info for the detectives and a good child forensic investigator should be able to unlock it all.
     
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    We know where the priorities are with this mom! It should always be your children first
    before yourself.
     
  20. HayLouise

    HayLouise Law Student

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