IL - Chicago-Area College Professor Disputes University Accounts

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  1. los2188

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    Larycia Hawkins
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    Chicago-Area College Professor Disputes University Accounts
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...ofessor-disputes-university-accounts-36125112
     
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  3. bluesneakers

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    I wonder what would have happened if she said Christians and Jews worship the same God.

    http://www.wheaton.edu/About-Wheaton/Mission
     
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    Professor ‘flabbergasted’ over Wheaton’s plan to fire her over worship comments

    And the school said:
    * I don't know if there's a quote from Pope Francis phrasing it in exactly those words, but this is from Pope Paul VI:

     
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    From Pope Francis:

    http://en.radiovaticana.va/storico/...ntatives_of_the_churches,_ecclesia/en1-675184

    Her college isn't Catholic and her employers might not care, but I wanted to check on her Pope Francis comment.
     
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    It isn't a Muslim, Jewish or Catholic college. It is a Christian college. There's a vast difference in the beliefs and teachings of each of them IMO.
     
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    Well, Catholics are Christians although I know other Christians don't have a Pope.

    Do you know what kind of Christian? Because there are vast differences there as well.
     
  8. Tillicum

    Tillicum Active Member

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    I'm not finding a particular denomination but here's part of their statement of faith.

    Statement of Faith
    The doctrinal statement of Wheaton College, reaffirmed annually by its Board of Trustees, faculty, and staff, provides a summary of biblical doctrine that is consonant with evangelical Christianity. The statement accordingly reaffirms salient features of the historic Christian creeds, thereby identifying the College not only with the Scriptures but also with the reformers and the evangelical movement of recent years. The statement also defines the biblical perspective which informs a Wheaton education. These doctrines of the church cast light on the study of nature and man, as well as on man's culture.
     
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    Thanks.

    This history appears to go from Methodist to Presbyterian to Evangelical. I've alway thought Evangelicalism was a sort of umbrella term used to cover a few different denominations.

    JMO but I'd hate to see her terminated over this. :(
     
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    It sounds like both she and the college have dug in their heels. I want to know more.
     
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    Always!
     
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    Tillicum Active Member

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    Wheaton College says the notice is not a termination but the start of a process for tenured faculty members.

    During the process, a committee will consider both testimony and evidence and will make a recommendation to the Ryken regarding Hawkins' tenure. He will add his own recommendations.

    The final decision will be in the hands of the Wheaton College board of trustees.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/us/wheaton-college-professor-hijab/
     
  13. Tillicum

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    I'm starting to think there were problems before this.

    The Chicago Tribune reported that Hawkins had been asked to affirm the college’s statement of faith four times since she started teaching at Wheaton College nine years go. Hawkins and the school have butted heads over a paper relating the Bible and race relations in America, a photo taken of her inside a home at a party on the same day as Chicago’s Pride Parade and suggesting the college's curriculum should include sensitive vocabulary for talks concerning sexuality, according to the paper.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/0...s-to-fire-professor-for-comment-on-islam.html
     
  14. meanmaryjean

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    Jesse Jackson OF COURSE had to insert himself into this. And calling him a 'religious leader'? Laughable. Dr. King is rolling in his grave.
     
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    In all matters of faculty and staff conflict with the Statement of Faith, Wheaton College undergoes dialogue to determine if agreement can be found. Statements have been made in recent days raising similar questions by other faculty members from whom the College requested clarification. In those instances, the individuals rapidly and emphatically explained their opinions and affirmed their full consistency with the theological identity of Wheaton College.

    However, the views expressed by Dr. Hawkins were more complex. Discussions between her and the administration were at an initial stage, and she was placed on administrative leave by Provost Dr. Stanton L. Jones in order to allow adequate time for reflection and review by Dr. Hawkins and the administration.

    In her most recent statement, Dr. Hawkins seems committed to her personal theological stance, as stated in social media posts and subsequent media interviews; she has not yet reconciled her beliefs with the College’s theological position.

    http://www.wheaton.edu/Media-Center...heaton-College-Statement-Regarding-Dr-Hawkins
     
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    He's an ordained Baptist minister. He attended the Chicago Theological Seminary. He has been awarded a Master of Divinity Degree. Those three facts, along with his record of service and activism, make him a religious leader. A civil rights leader too.
     
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    Wheaton College is a private American four-year Evangelical Protestant Christian liberal arts college in Wheaton, Illinois, a suburb 25 miles (40 km) west of Chicago. The college was founded by abolitionists in 1860.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheaton_College_(Illinois)
     
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    This make it sound like she's an agitator. Maybe the school has been waiting for their next chance. That's four times it was enough of an issue she had to affirm the statement, it's likely there were smaller infractions as well.

    But after nine years? How many times does she have to convince them she's Christian enough? I can see where it would be tempting to walk away, but I've had many professors who were invested (not $) in the school and it would have been hard for them to leave.

    I don't know. It's difficult to figure out without knowing all the details. JMO
     
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    This poll is interesting and may help us to understand why they've both dug in their heels. They probably both feel strongly that they're right. More at the link with many things that factor in to each person's belief.

    Summary: Americans are evenly split among whether Christians and Muslims pray to the same God. Younger people are more likely to agree that they do (55% of those age 18-34 agree). Christians, and particularly self-identified evangelicals, are less likely to agree. But opinions vary among all groups we examined, with more than a third of self-identified evangelicals agreeing and no examined sub-group reaching 60% agreement.
    In other words, self-identified evangelicals and religious service attendees strongly disagree that Muslims and Christians play to the same God. Furthermore, this is "self-identified evangelicals," and practicing evangelicals would almost certainly disagree at a higher level.

    http://www.christianitytoday.com/ed...lam-how-do-people-see-them-and-who-they-.html
     
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    Jews, Christians and Muslims all claim to worship the God of Abraham. So technically she is correct.
     
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    Wheaton College Faculty Council Recommends Administration Withdraw Firing Professor

    The faculty and administration are going to have a "Listening Session" and some questions will be addressed, like:
     

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