IL IL - Chicago, very tall Male UP2735, 28-48, Oct '03

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  1. sonz82

    sonz82 Well-Known Member

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    I checked namus, theres only a phone number for Brian Brazil, no email.
    Its too expensive for me to make international calls unfortunately.
     


  2. coffeeandacig

    coffeeandacig Well-Known Member

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    I did another sketch to see what he may have looked like based on the only skull photo (side view) provided to Namus. The side view did not include the mandible, and so the jaw area and earlobe were created solely by myself.

    It may help to narrow down potentials to matching some of the more obvious facial features.
    ChicagoUIDNavyPier3smallersize.jpg
     
  3. fred&edna

    fred&edna Well-Known Member

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    I'm hoping we'll see coffeeandacig back soon and share more wonderful work on identifying this UID. We need more help like coffeeandacig provided in this case and so many more!
     
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    victoriarobinson642 Well-Known Member

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  5. YaYa_521

    YaYa_521 Every Body's Name Matters

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    @Melt71 I thought Gary would be a good potential too, given the circumstances surrounding his disappearance, the locations and the matches on most physical descriptors. The big questions for me are the size 14 boots he was supposedly wearing vs JD's size 12 boots and the 6-month timeline. Would May to October be enough time for skeletonization? According to Doe and NamUs profiles estimated YOD is 2001-2003 with a 1 yr. PMI. Still, we've seen enough errors, mistakes, oversights, etc. on both MPs and UIDs to know he could still be a match. Did you submit him as a PM?

    Here are a few photos along with the composite @coffeeandacig so kindly provided.
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    Oops! Eta - link
    Gary James Swanson Jr. – The Charley Project
     
  6. YaYa_521

    YaYa_521 Every Body's Name Matters

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    Ty for sharing your talents and skills!
     
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    MadMcGoo Well-Known Member

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    Per usual, excellent job and thank you!!

    He has a very distinct profile!
     
  8. Melt71

    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    @sonz82 Maybe I can help you - here's a snip and I've circled the email address for the submission of matches.
     

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  9. Melt71

    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't submit him as DoeNetwork says his car was found in Loren IL, which works well with the scenario I laid out above. But Namus says it was found in Loraine IL which is the opposite direction. So I've written to Doe Network to see if that can be clarified.
     
  10. Melt71

    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    Wanted to suggest 6'7" Marvin Thomas Graham who went missing from CA in 1985 when he was 41yo (which would have made him 58yo at the estimated PMI year of 2002 and within Namus "under 60" sub-category which also sits alongside their best guess of 28-48.
    874DMCA - Marvin Thomas Graham
    Few details exist in his case that I couldn't determine if he may have left/disappeared of his own accord (and potentially started a new life in Chicago).
     
  11. Melt71

    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    I received a response that the car was found in Loraine (not Loren) and Doe Network will correct their record. Given this fact I feel Gary is less likely as a match. But the Doe Network email asked if I needed anything else, so I will submit him anyway and see what they say.

    @sonz82 the email also included an email address for the current investigating LE officer. I'd prefer not to share publicly as I wasn't given specific permission to do so. But if you would like the details (so you can submit your potential match mentioned above) please PM me and I will share.
     
  12. YaYa_521

    YaYa_521 Every Body's Name Matters

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    Good job getting this cleared up! I'd suggest sending Marvin's info along with Gary's.
     
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    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    DoeNetwork has submitted Gary for panel review.
     
  14. Melt71

    Melt71 Well-Known Member

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    Received a response that Gary Swanson was already ruled out a number of years ago. Appreciate that I even got a response.
     
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