IL IL - Dermot Kelly, 16, Oglesby, Jan 1972

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    ''Czworniak, a retired Chicago police homicide detective, said he believes Dermot killed himself and was swept away by the river, but there are loose threads to the disappearance he wishes he could pull together.

    “There are many avenues to explore, but nothing solid to go on. A couple of things are odd about the case,” Czworniak said.''
    ''At any rate, Czworniak pointed to indicators of suicide.

    Dermot was a junior at the then all boys St. Bede Academy between Peru and Spring Valley. He was in class the Friday before he vanished, but had missed several weeks in the fall, while he was receiving medical treatment in the Chicago area, the school’s head said at the time.

    Also, in reporting Dermot missing, his parents said Dermot was an introspective boy who had been despondent.''
     
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    We know tensions were terrible between Dermot and his Dad, but this missing posted attached here, is the first piece of evidence that says, Dermot and his Dad had a fight just before he left the house that day with a shotgun: (January 30, 1972) between 1:00-1:30 pm.

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    Gee. An introspective boy who had been despondent left his house with a shotgun. I wonder what could have happened.
     
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    Yea, the writing of suicide was on the wall to everyone but his parents. I honestly think that his Dad hated Dermot so much for pursing a lifestyle so different than what he demanded Dermot follow, that I really don't think his Dad cared what happened to him. And after all those years, no mention of his son in his own obituary. This was vicious animosity. No doubt in my mind. Several who are close to the case are actually happy that Dermot got out of that hostile environment and found peace. Even if it was suicide. In Dermot's eyes, suicide ended his suffering at home. He did it to end his pain. Now, more than ever, I believe this was a drowning/suicide.

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    Good to see you back Satch! I was briefly worried when I looked at the dates and saw that you had not responded; I remember well how you felt about this case...
     
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    I just noticed something in the article that I never noticed before when reading about Dermot's case. It says Dermot's parents reported him missing TWO HOURS after he left the house. He went out to do some target shooting at 1:15pm so that means he was reported missing at around 3:15pm. Even though it was January that's still about three hours before dark. Why did they report him missing so quickly? It sounds as if they had reason to believe he might have harmed himself or come to harm somehow.

    Even if he'd been instructed to return within an hour, a two-hour absence doesn't necessarily mean anything is amiss, much less that police needed to be called. I would imagine a lot of teen boys could easily let time get away with them if they were actually out in the woods target shooting. When I was a teenage girl I frequently forgot to watch the clock when I was out somewhere having fun, even outdoors in frigid winter temperatures. When you're young you don't seem to get cold as quickly or pay as much attention to it.

    I think one or both of the parents knew he wasn't in a good frame of mind when he left the house. Him not returning within two hours appears to have raised feelings of alarm, so much so that he was reported as a missing person. I'm surprised police would respond so quickly for a teen who was only gone for two hours. If this were a toddler or small child, yes. But the parents must have told police something that indicated Dermot might not be okay.
     
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    My feeling is the following,

    The animosity and friction between Dermot's dad and he was so strong, after the fight, that his Dad really didn't care what happened to him. Possibly Dermot's Mother came home, and his other siblings and she pleaded with Mr. Kelly to call the authorities. Dad was in complete charge of that household, and may have even had demands similar to boot camp with his bad temper and Army background.

    Empathy directed by Mrs. Kelly and/or Dermot's siblings convinced his Dad to call authorities. If Dermot's Dad really cared about his mental state at this late stage, he should have controlled his temper, and never should have let Dermot in a despondent state, leave the house with a shotgun. I also feel the target shooting was a ploy by Dermot to prevent being followed. There was no going back for Dermot. He couldn't take his father's wrath for one more day. When he left the house that day, January 30, 1072 between 1:00-1:30pm he was leaving home..... to die.

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