IL - Roberto Rolon, Zoraida Bartolomei and their two children, murdered, Romeoville, 17 Sept 2023

[Sundog]

The victims were discovered deceased Sunday evening --sometime after a request for a welfare check around 9 pm Sunday.

IMO, I think two things occurred here quickly giving LE the nexus: I believe NH was likely driving the SUV registered to his partner EP, and the vehicle was picked up on neighborhood surveillance, and second, EP's daughter soon after reported her mother missing/endangered.

Agree about the car on the video, but EP's daughter didn't report her mother missing/endangered until Tuesday night. She saw her mother leave with NH around 4 p.m. on Tuesday. I think LE had identified NH as the suspect before then, at least it sounds that way from what LE are saying.

IMO, it follows that EP could be the link to the murdered family. Maybe the couple was visiting the family when NH erupted violently. For NH to also kill the children and pets seems very irrational, paranoid, and disturbed thinking. EP's family also reported that she was afraid of NH. This senseless act may come down to a case of domestic violence where crazed NH thought the young family was somehow a threat to him.

That might be the case, but we know that the children's grandmother in Puerto Rico talked with her daughter around 9 p.m. on Saturday night, and her daughter told the grandmother that they (the family) were about to watch a movie. The daughter sounds like she gave a lot of detail when she spoke with her mother, so I think she might have mentioned that they had company if that was the case.

I think it was heightened paranoia by NH that he was being followed by LE and why he fled the area along with EP. In other words, LE could have easily detained suspect NH for questioning while gathering evidence to secure a warrant for his arrest. (NH was named a suspect Tuesday night and likely had a full day head start to arrive OK by Wednesday morning).

IIRC, it was reported in MSM that LE were, in fact, following/surveilling NH, and it was also mentioned that NH actually started to follow LE. Very odd stuff. And it was stated in MSM that LE did not have the evidence to arrest him at that time.

If EP was sonehow the nexus, then still wonder what brought NH into the picture and why they were at that home. And were they both at the home, we don't know, it's possible that NH went to the home alone using EP's car. EP may have not been there at all, that hasn't been confirmed yet.

So many questions as we wait for the more information from LE.

 

[Seattle1]

Agree about the car on the video, but EP's daughter didn't report her mother missing/endangered until Tuesday night. She saw her mother leave with NH around 4 p.m. on Tuesday. I think LE had identified NH as the suspect before then, at least it sounds that way from what LE are saying.

I don't have any reason to doubt the words attributed to Romeoville PD Deputy Chief Chris Burne on Wednesday. I can't confirm that any LE source stated they were previously surveilling the suspect. I agree the investigation is active and ongoing and many questions remain unanswered. JMO

Within hours of the family's horrific discovery, police identified Huey as a person of interest, along with a woman he had a relationship with, Burne told reporters during a Wednesday news conference.

The woman was reported by family as a missing or endangered person Tuesday night out of Streamwood, Illinois, Burne said.

Later that evening, Burne said, police issued a statewide bulletin to law enforcement agencies identifying Huey as a suspect in the mass homicide.

Police then issued a bulletin alerting law enforcement Huey was wanted in connection to the killings.

Illinois mass murder suspect, person of interest found dead after Oklahoma police chase

Nathaniel Huey Jr., a man accused of killing 4 people in Romeoville, Illinois, and a female passenger are dead following a police chase in Oklahoma.

www.usatoday.com

 

[samsmom]

Might be old but just came across my Chicagoland feed

More details in the slaying of an Illinois family of four from Romeoville unfolded Wednesday after police said two suspects in the case were found shot -- one fatally -- following a fiery car crash approximately 600 miles away in Catoosa, Oklahoma.

https://nbcchicago.app.link/x3KzXdTEhDb

 

[Cryptic]

Agreed.
I also wonder if Huey had been fired/let go ... by anyone ??
Could it be that he didn't take perceived 'rejection' well ?

I think this is a good possibility. The following could be built on your possibility:

- Sporadic employment history. Frequent job changes and fresh starts- including the new "Alpha Male" security gig. A deep seated "No- I dont take rejection well" mentality

- Followed by: This new Alpha Male security gig is more than a gig- its the "new me" to the core. The last chance to get the total respect I deserve. It needs to work.

With those possible themes of I Dont take rejection well and "last chance to get what I deserve", even a mild rejection could snowball.



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[imstilla.grandma]

"The family wants you to know [Palomo] had nothing to do with the murders," attorney John Paul Ivec, who represents Palomo's family, said. "They're also in shock just like everyone who would suffer a loss like this."

Ivec revealed that Huey may have worked with one of the member of that household.

Girlfriend of Suspect in Mass Murder of Chicago-Area Family of 4 Had Nothing to Do With Killings, Lawyer Says

Ermalinda Palomo, 50, was named as a person of interest in the murders of Alberto Rolon, 38, Zoraida Bartolomei, 32, and their two sons in Romeoville, Illinois before she was killed

themessenger.com

 

[Cryptic]

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Not to read too much into this photo, but....when looking at the full size one, some things appear to stand out:

- Regardless of the size, the photo is in black and white. Black and white format can be chosen by amateur (and pro) photographers for starkness, contrasts, and other artistic qualities.

- The photo looks well composed and thought out. Not say, Pulitzer prize, but more than: "Hey Babe- get a picture with your phone- then grab me a beer".

The totality could reinforce that the Alpha Male SWAT / Security / DEFCON-4 etc. image was very important to the suspect. Even the photo needs to be good!

Going on the gear and guy.....

- His boots are dirty, so is his uniform on one knee. His nails are dirty.

- Some of the "doo dads" (I have no idea what they are) on the weapon look worn. Flashlight thing at the muzzle worn, the muzzle itself is scratched, the receiver seems to have worn paint on the edges or is it just light?. Other doodads near muzzle and "rails" seem to have similar worn aspects. Pistol / taser muzzle seems scratched.

- Butt of the rifle is new, but I think it is not uncommon to change them out for either new features- or just cooler looks.

The totality seems to suggest that the gear and gun is in active use. It is not a "closet queen". Likewise, it suggests he truly practices with his guns ' gear.

Thus, the his self image of Alpha Male SWAT represented in the composed photo could be matched by actual and continous SWAT etc. practice- or his approximation of it.

In short, and as witnesses have said, he was dangerous- period.

 

[airportwoman]

"The family wants you to know [Palomo] had nothing to do with the murders," attorney John Paul Ivec, who represents Palomo's family, said. "They're also in shock just like everyone who would suffer a loss like this."

Ivec revealed that Huey may have worked with one of the member of that household.

Girlfriend of Suspect in Mass Murder of Chicago-Area Family of 4 Had Nothing to Do With Killings, Lawyer Says

Ermalinda Palomo, 50, was named as a person of interest in the murders of Alberto Rolon, 38, Zoraida Bartolomei, 32, and their two sons in Romeoville, Illinois before she was killed

themessenger.com

When I saw their ages, I assumed they were mother and son, but instead, they were "boyfriend and girlfriend." I'm very sorry to see that she died; I was hoping that she would at least recover enough to tell authorities as much as she could, and then live out the rest of her life in safety from this very bad man.

 

[Sundog]

I hadn't seen this reported before in MSM, the detail that Ermalynda was at home sleeping when Huey murdered the Romeoville family. This is what the Palomo family lawyer is quoted as saying in this article.

Woman found with man suspected of killing Chicago-area family was shot dead, her attorney says

Ermalinda Palomo, 50, was home sleeping when the family was killed, according to her attorney.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[mickey2942]

I hadn't seen this reported before in MSM, the detail that Ermalynda was at home sleeping when Huey murdered the Romeoville family. This is what the Palomo family lawyer is quoted as saying in this article.

Woman found with man suspected of killing Chicago-area family was shot dead, her attorney says

Ermalinda Palomo, 50, was home sleeping when the family was killed, according to her attorney.

www.nbcnews.com

Interesting article. She dated him for about 8 years?! But she was not present during the murders. But went with him, on the run?

 

[Sundog]

Now-dead man suspected in murder of Illinois family had lengthy criminal record

Nathaniel Huey Jr.'s criminal past should have been a red flag – including a court order banning him from possessing firearms.

www.cbsnews.com

The attorney for the Palomo family says that the Palomo family believes that Huey may have worked with Alberto Rolon.

The article also discusses Nathaniel Huey's criminal record from the past and that he was not supposed to own any firearms. Also, apparently he has several children of his own that he hasn't seen over the past year, according to the article.

 

[Sundog]

Attorney: Person of interest in Illinois family's murder texted loved ones before she was reported missing

An attorney representing relatives of a woman shot dead following a police pursuit and crash in Oklahoma related to a quadruple murder in a Chicago suburb said Thursday that her family believes the woman was kidnapped and had nothing to do with the gruesome crime.

www.nbcchicago.com

By Wednesday morning, a digital license plate reader alert noted a suspected vehicle related to the couple was detected in Catoosa, Oklahoma, police said.

"One of our cameras gave us two notifications - one of the same vehicle as the individual that was of interest in [Romeoville's] quadruple homicide, and a female that had been listed as missing or endangered," Catoosa Police Chief Ronnie Benight told NBC Chicago.

At the time, the vehicle was located in a parking lot of a department store, so officers waited for the pair to exit before approaching, Benight said.

"[Officers] made a very good decision," Benight said. "It's a large department store. They waited for them to come out rather than approach possibly armed homicide suspects inside of the crowded area. So when they came out to try to make contact, they got in the vehicle and they fled. So a vehicle pursuit ensued."

 

[Seattle1]

Now-dead man suspected in murder of Illinois family had lengthy criminal record

Nathaniel Huey Jr.'s criminal past should have been a red flag – including a court order banning him from possessing firearms.

www.cbsnews.com

9.21.23

CHICAGO (CBS) -- The man suspected of murdering a family of four in Romeoville had a criminal past – which raises questions about how he got a hold of guns.

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Meanwhile, Huey had been on police radar for years. The CBS 2 Investigators uncovered one court document from 2017 stating he was to refrain from possessing a firearm or other dangerous weapons.

That order came after a history of numerous arrests - including a 2016 battery and multiple several DUIs, including an aggravated DUI in 2017.

In the 2017 case, we found Huey spent at least 30 days in the Cook County Jail – and was then he put on house arrest, followed by probation for two years.

But on Huey's Facebook page, he publicly flaunted his arsenal of weapons, trying to get people to hire his security company called Black Bear Security.
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IMO, might explain the use of faux identity/ alias (Azay Ezekiel Lewis) on the suspect's social media. So many victims in this senseless crime. A killer of babies and dogs -- enough said. MOO

 

[Megnut]

Attorney: Person of interest in Illinois family's murder texted loved ones before she was reported missing

An attorney representing relatives of a woman shot dead following a police pursuit and crash in Oklahoma related to a quadruple murder in a Chicago suburb said Thursday that her family believes the woman was kidnapped and had nothing to do with the gruesome crime.

www.nbcchicago.com

By Wednesday morning, a digital license plate reader alert noted a suspected vehicle related to the couple was detected in Catoosa, Oklahoma, police said.

"One of our cameras gave us two notifications - one of the same vehicle as the individual that was of interest in [Romeoville's] quadruple homicide, and a female that had been listed as missing or endangered," Catoosa Police Chief Ronnie Benight told NBC Chicago.

At the time, the vehicle was located in a parking lot of a department store, so officers waited for the pair to exit before approaching, Benight said.

"[Officers] made a very good decision," Benight said. "It's a large department store. They waited for them to come out rather than approach possibly armed homicide suspects inside of the crowded area. So when they came out to try to make contact, they got in the vehicle and they fled. So a vehicle pursuit ensued."

Did no one think to box his car in?

The nexus.

Sigh.

I'd say the nexus was the intersection of good (this lovely family and their pets) and evil (his history speaks for itself).

What an utter travesty.

Jmo

 

[Cryptic]

CHICAGO (CBS) -- The man suspected of murdering a family of four in Romeoville had a criminal past – which raises questions about how he got a hold of guns.

That is a very good question.

Illinois law bans "private transactions" of fire arms. Rather, all weapons transfers require full back ground checks. In cases where neither the buyer, nor seller are licensed vendors, the back ground check is done by local police.

The suspect's criminal record would appear to trigger the federal prohibition on individuals convicted of certain offenses. Thus, going out of state to a licensed vendor is not an option.

That could leave: A. Illegal steet buys in Illinois. B. Private transactions in states that dont require back ground checks for them.

Even those two viable options would seem to be limiting. The suspect is holding an AR-15 type in the photo and is stated to have an "arsenal".

But.... How easy is it to acquire numerous weapons, including an AR15 via illegal street buys in Illinois? Likewise, traveling out of state for private transactions w/o back ground checks would be time consuming and would also involve finding willing vendors.

 

[mickey2942]

That is a very good question.

Illinois law bans "private transactions" of fire arms. Rather, all weapons transfers require full back ground checks. In cases where neither the buyer, nor seller are licensed vendors, the back ground check is done by local police.

The suspect's criminal record would appear to trigger the federal prohibition on individuals convicted of certain offenses. Thus, going out of state to a licensed vendor is not an option.

That could leave: A. Illegal steet buys in Illinois. B. Private transactions in states that dont require back ground checks for them.

Even those two viable options would seem to be limiting. The suspect is holding an AR-15 type in the photo and is stated to have an "arsenal".

But.... How easy is it to acquire numerous weapons, including an AR15 via illegal street buys in Illinois? Likewise, traveling out of state for private transactions w/o back ground checks would be time consuming and would also involve finding willing vendors.

MOO, is that buying guns is easy. No matter where you live in the United States.

 

[Sundog]

Did no one think to box his car in?

<snipped for focus>

Do you mean in Oklahoma when LE found their car parked in a department store parking lot? I think they figured that if they boxed it in, then NH and EP may have seen that when they exited the department store and either escaped on foot unbeknownst to LE or escaped on foot and a shootout could have ensued with lots of innocent victims nearby.

But, like you, I do wonder if there might have been a way to avoid the chase and fiery crash and shootings. But, in the end, I think LE knew what they were doing. They had the bulletin from Romeoville LE that made it clear that the suspect was erratic and dangerous, etc., and that EP was endangered. NH could have taken her as a hostage, or innocent people nearby in the crowded parking lot could have been at risk.

JMO.

 

[Megnut]

It's just a shame he was able to continue. With a weapon in the car and the car as a weapon. Two more casualties. Could have been more. Really unfortunate LE wasn't able to apprehend them separately, a take down before they reached the car.

Dangerous man. Bent on loss of life.

Jmo

 

[MassGuy]

That is a very good question.

Illinois law bans "private transactions" of fire arms. Rather, all weapons transfers require full back ground checks. In cases where neither the buyer, nor seller are licensed vendors, the back ground check is done by local police.

The suspect's criminal record would appear to trigger the federal prohibition on individuals convicted of certain offenses. Thus, going out of state to a licensed vendor is not an option.

That could leave: A. Illegal steet buys in Illinois. B. Private transactions in states that dont require back ground checks for them.

Even those two viable options would seem to be limiting. The suspect is holding an AR-15 type in the photo and is stated to have an "arsenal".

But.... How easy is it to acquire numerous weapons, including an AR15 via illegal street buys in Illinois? Likewise, traveling out of state for private transactions w/o back ground checks would be time consuming and would also involve finding willing vendors.

He could have bought it from a gun show in Indiana. Private sellers are not required to perform background checks.

 

[Cryptic]

He could have bought it from a gun show in Indiana. Private sellers are not required to perform background checks.

From what I have seen in urban DFW, private sellers at guns shows (some shows are even " FFL dealer only") have gotten relatively hard to find. But....

I do think you are clearly right in the fundamental sense. As @mickey2942 stated and you allude to..... Getting weapons is easy- period.

In the end, I was "analyzing" it from my point of view: I dont have a strong interest in guns, I dont like driving, I have alot of other obligations on my time and... I will not buy a gun illegally.

But... the suspect is not me. As you and Mickey allude to, he may of needed to jump through a few more hoops. But those hoops are really just inconveniences:

Drive to Indiana to find a private vendor at a gun show. Ok.... no such vendors at this one? Guess I need to go to a few more gun shows. (yawn).

Buy one or two "off the street" illegally via friends of friends. Get connected to an internet forum with posts for private sales in IN or MO. Need to drive? So what?

Maybe build one from ordered parts before key parts were serialized and tracked. Trouble with the few steps needed to finish the parts for assembly? Find an internet group willing to help....

 

[Friday Fan]

Now-dead man suspected in murder of Illinois family had lengthy criminal record

Nathaniel Huey Jr.'s criminal past should have been a red flag – including a court order banning him from possessing firearms.

www.cbsnews.com

9.21.23

CHICAGO (CBS) -- The man suspected of murdering a family of four in Romeoville had a criminal past – which raises questions about how he got a hold of guns.

[..]

Meanwhile, Huey had been on police radar for years. The CBS 2 Investigators uncovered one court document from 2017 stating he was to refrain from possessing a firearm or other dangerous weapons.

That order came after a history of numerous arrests - including a 2016 battery and multiple several DUIs, including an aggravated DUI in 2017.

In the 2017 case, we found Huey spent at least 30 days in the Cook County Jail – and was then he put on house arrest, followed by probation for two years.

But on Huey's Facebook page, he publicly flaunted his arsenal of weapons, trying to get people to hire his security company called Black Bear Security.
_________________________

IMO, might explain the use of faux identity/ alias (Azay Ezekiel Lewis) on the suspect's social media. So many victims in this senseless crime. A killer of babies and dogs -- enough said. MOO

Too bad they didn't nab him on firearms before he killed an entire family.