IL IL -WILLIAM HEIRENS - The Lipstick Killer 1940's

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  1. Fairy1

    Fairy1 No Country for Old Men

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    It's the strangest thing! I was doing some research on another killer today and came across this fella's story - which I hadn't heard of before:

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/heirens/heirens_1.html

    When I was done reading, I did a search for more recent news and discovered he just died - yesterday! Eeeek!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-the-lipstick-killer-20120306,0,5198291.story

    This is one of those where I just don't feel sure he was guilty. If he wasn't, it's heartbreaking to know he spent his entire adult life in prison.
     
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  3. STANDREID

    STANDREID A slacker when slacker wasn't cool

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    I'm 65 years old - born in 1946 - and this guy has been incarcerated since before I was born. There's some considerable doubt regarding his guilt also. I believe he was the first inmate in Illinois to graduate from college while in prison. No in betweens; he either got what he deserved or it was one of history's greatest injustices.
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    I'd read a ton of stuff about this case over the years, then came upon an article or articles that stated the case for his innocence; I'd just taken it for granted he was the man. Trying to scout up something now, not sure if I can find them on internet.
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    Yes STANDREID, he was the first in Illinois to get his college degree behind bars.

    Can't find the thing I read but here're the core arguments from the Trib article Fairy1 links above:
    Wiki also has a large section about his possible innocence.
     
  6. STANDREID

    STANDREID A slacker when slacker wasn't cool

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    I first heard about the case in 1957 when our sixth grade teacher treated our class to an account of the murders.:eek::eek:hwow::eek:hoh::noooo:

    She completed the set with the story of Leopold and Loeb.
     
  7. Fairy1

    Fairy1 No Country for Old Men

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    I really have to wonder why no one ever took up his cause over the years. Then again, I'm not sure how well he would have been able to handle the "real" world after having been locked up for so long.
     
  8. Fairy1

    Fairy1 No Country for Old Men

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    That's hilarious! That kind of thing would not fly today!
     
  9. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    First heard of it when I was 12 or 13 and bought a bunch of old "true detective"-like magazines from the '50s at a seamy rod & gun (and junk) store by the subway underpass in my hometown. Ah! memories.
     
  10. STANDREID

    STANDREID A slacker when slacker wasn't cool

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    I believe crime writer Dolores Kennedy took up his cause to no avail.
     
  11. Fairy1

    Fairy1 No Country for Old Men

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    She sure did, bless her heart!

    But I mean, like, the Innocence Project and the like.
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    Daily Mail has this, of course!

    Notorious Lipstick Killer dies in jail 67 years after stabbing two
    women and dismembering a child as he begged police to stop him

    It's an AP article but with some more pictures.

    And, after reading that Wiki "claims of innocence" stuff I linked above - I think they framed the youngster all those years ago.
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    Interesting (and lengthy) GQ article from 2008:

    The Long, Long Life of the Lipstick Killer
     
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    Fairy1 No Country for Old Men

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    I think so, too. Poor guy.

    Thank goodness there is a more transparent legal system, more responsible media and much better investigative resources these days.
     
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    Sailor Haumea New Member

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    Holy crap, I assumed he was guilty too until I started reading. This guy was railroaded. Without a doubt.
     

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