GUILTY IL - Yingying Zhang, 26, Urbana, 9 June 2017 #10 *Still Missing*

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  1. dm92

    dm92 Well-Known Member

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    There was one that wasn't proven: future dangerousness
    Also, they weigh the proven aggravating factors against the mitigating factors

    Sadly, two people thought "substance abuse issues" coupled with various and sundry other BS excuses outweighed the murder; torture-severe physical abuse; lack of remorse; obstruction and planning and premeditation aggravators. The lack of "future dangerousness" being on the table meant they could feel confident that showing him mercy and letting him live would not put others in danger of being killed or abused at his hands. Had they been forced to consider that BC still constituted a threat to others, maybe they would have felt differently......
     
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    Ok, since BC has a knowledge of science, do you think that he could have used the disposal method of promession?

    It consists of freezing the body with liquid nitrogen, vibrating it into small particles, then freeze drying it so that a dry powder remains.
     
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  3. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    So did Michelle say how long he was gone with the bag anywhere in her interviews? 5 mins, 1 hr? Where did TB live if he was "delivering" the cat tree and did MZ query why he didn't return with the empty bag?
     
  4. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    If the family are somehow going to receive the $250k x 2 that the judge ruled on, the family may well search themselves. Therefore, any search efforts should be coordinated with the family IMO.
     
  5. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    The jury couldn't even agree on LWOP. They couldn't get a unanimous verdict on either death or LWOP based on the document up thread. It seems that some were just immovable with their decisions. Perhaps some thought he should have a parole option. Very strange.
     
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    JaneEyre Well-Known Member

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    They couldn’t agree on LWOP only because the majority wanted the DP. I see no reason to suspect that any of the jurors thought he should have a parole option.
     
  7. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    They only had LWOP or death penalty on the form and 5 agreed there were mitigating factors according to the form. They could have chosen LWOP but didn't so we don't know what those 5 thought. For some reason they didn't choose LWOP either, so I am guessing they thought he should have parole, (my guess may be wrong but I am entitled to speculate) whereas others wanted death penalty. Where you have that, usually there is some movement but there wasn't in this case, indicating both sides were immovable IMO.
    For LWOP it wouldn't have to be unanimous would it ?
     
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    all he has to do is manifest symptoms of some terminal illness and we're off again....
     
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  9. kittythehare

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    It looks that way!
    He had not imbibed alcohol on the day he killed her.
    His obsession with serial killers commenced in 2016, followed by a down of his grades, he switched attention from academia to killing- FOR SPORT, FOR HIS OWN AMUSEMENT acc to Judge who should really have said this before rather than after the jury went to deliberate.
     
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  10. kittythehare

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    No, she did not.
    She was working in the computer bedroom of their apartment on Monday when she saw him leave with the bag.
    He told her he was going around to TB's place with a cat tree.
    He or she did not say whether he walked or drove...
    He told the police he may have left it on the sidewalk or the passenger side of the car,
    The feds checked every store selling cat trees and examined footage of all cat tree purchasers and didn;t find him.
    THAT is all that was presented in testimony.

    We can assume he did not go around to tB's that afternoon.
    It was michelle that informed TB about the cat tree that never existed, she asked BC in a recorded call about the thing later..
     
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    The fall out continues . . .

    The Murder Of Yingying Zhang May Impact Enrollment Of Chinese Students At Illinois Universitites

     
  12. kittythehare

    kittythehare Well-Known Member

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    No.
    He wanted trophies,not powder and it would have ensued quite a lot of work and purchases for which no evidence exists.
     
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    Hi All, I've been following this sad case off and on, mostly at the beginning and recently. I find it very unusual that BC decided to not reveal the location of her remains despite the death penalty being on the table. Given that he admitted to the murder, why do you guys think that is? Is it a last form of some sick control over YY? A bargaining chip for the future? I know you all don't have the answers but interested in your thoughts.
     
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    It's 250, 000$ x 3, not 2.
    The last thing the family needs is a bunch of amateur do-gooders approaching them with an unproven theory only to dash their hopes when maybe nothing may be found.
    We can, however approach LE who will not be wounded by our theories .
     
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    There's about 2 years and thousands of posts on our theories if you feel like a long read and have the time.
    Mine is that he preserved her body with the intention of revisiting it like his idol Bundy. I believe he did that by managing to find a preservation method and location to keep it dry and safe from elements, a climate controlled environment...
     
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    Are we sure the $250 k x 3 go to the family? I heard the word "fine" not "restitution". The state has spent a ton on investigating, incarcerating him, and financing his trial.

    I am inclined to think the monies from the fines go back to the state not to the Zhang family.


     
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    Such a wishy-washy report, I wonder why they even bothered making it!
    The student intake went down last year, slightly but rose again.
    The outcome of the court case could actually affect it now though.
     
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    You are right Anemone.
     
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    You have good theories. My theory is that he dismembered her and deposited various bags around the huge trash bins of his apartment complex.

    The duffle bag had other evidence that he disposed off elsewhere but not far from his house.

    That is my theory, not fact.




     
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