Still Missing IL - Yingying Zhang, 26, Urbana, 9 June 2017 #7 *Arrest*

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  1. Hanoi2009

    Hanoi2009 Active Member

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    Yes- that part about them being confident they can prove she was tortured before her death makes me so sad.
     
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  2. Alethea

    Alethea Verified Attorney

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    When I read this I immediately felt very sympathetic for the specific defense attorneys because I am sure their client is lying to them and the version they submitted is what their client told them happened.

    IMO it is the worst part about being a defense attorney. It is very hard to do your best job if even your client is throwing obstacles at every step. The prosecution has a usually truthful and candid "client" - the LE investigators. They are often at an advantage for that reason alone!
     
  3. Laughing

    Laughing Rarely Speechless

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    Not linking, but we all read it.

    I know very, very little about dominance/control relationships. Watching Criminal Minds and SVU may not be valid information.

    I may be out in left field, or on some other planet.

    Anyone else think that possibly MC remained naked until BC signaled her to comply with the law enforcement request to put on clothing?

    The divorce filing took this long while her family waited through some sort of de-programming?

    JMHO YMMV
     
  4. Hanoi2009

    Hanoi2009 Active Member

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    I am also curious about this on many levels.

    -I *think* I would immediately distance myself from my husband in this situation. Why a delay of a year and a half??
    -I think my repulsion would be additionally fueled by the knowledge that all sorts of these things happened in my home- in my bedroom and my bathroom. That feels like an utter betrayal (an understatement, of course).
    -I am (admittedly) a bit of a jealous person by nature, so I imagine I would object to my husband having what seems to be an incredibly close relationship with his ex-girlfriend (close enough that he divulged something to her that resulted in his arrest). Though that contact could’ve just been “rekindled” when the FBI questioned her initially.

    I know this is sheer speculation, and I am not suggesting or sleuthing anything here, but how much did they know about his interest in various fetishes? I know we can’t necessarily know the deepest, darkest thoughts and desires of our partners, but were there any warning signs or red flags? (in hindsight)
     
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  5. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    Thank you Hanoi.:):):)
    That article was so informative.
     
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  6. dm92

    dm92 Well-Known Member

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    They interviewed TEB and worked with her extensively, so I am sure they learned a lot about BC's interests from her, as well as learning about the nature of their relationship. After collecting his electronics and getting the search warrant for their content, they were able to look at everything he had been doing online, and we know they learned a great deal from this. One of the defense motions talks about BC and TEB being in a consensual dominant/submissive relationship, with interests in bondage and whipping. They probably learned a great deal from MC as well in that first interview.

    As far as red flags go, I remember reading somewhere that one thing MC described to investigators was how her husband had mentioned having disturbing dreams around that time. Whether that raised any red flags for her, I have no idea....
     
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  7. dm92

    dm92 Well-Known Member

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    They were in a dominant/submissive relationship, and I have *no* idea how these work, but perhaps he thought she was so submissive to him that she would believe everything he told her and would do everything he told her to do.

    I do think it was arrogance -coupled with him possibly being so overconfident and stupid as to think that TEB was so into the dom/sub thing, that he could tell her *anything* and she wouldn't turn him in.

    I think it's possible the FBI baited him into thinking he had gotten away with it. They didn't arrest him for her kidnapping back on the 15th because they probably didn't have enough evidence to charge him. So, they started surveilling him on the 16th; to try and get enough evidence to arrest him. Perhaps hoping that she was still alive and he was holding her somewhere, and he would lead them to her when he went to check on her. Or, if she had been killed, hoping he would worry that he hadn't hidden her remains well, and that he would go and check on them or try and move them to a better place.

    On June 15th they took his car and searched it in Champaign and then in Springfield at the FBI division headquarters, and returned it to him ~19th of June. During that period and in the days that followed, they continued to publicly ask for anyone with info on the car to contact them. They also publicized that they were putting up billboards along highways leading away from Champaing and in nearby metro areas (St. Louis, Indiana etc....). The FBI printed up Chinese language flyers and said they were distributing them in Chinese areas around the country.

    Then on the 27th or 28th, out of the blue the FBI announced that they had located the Astra YY had gotten into and would no longer need any information from the public on the car. Maybe they found fingerprints from BC's car and matched them to her by that time -or maybe after two weeks of surveillance and no sign of YY, they concluded BC wasn't going to lead them to her, so to try and get him to loosen up and talk, they decided to try and make him think the FBI was looking at someone else; they announce they found the car. Maybe that was enough to make him think it was now safe for him to start bragging to his sub about what he had done....


    My guess would be yes.
     
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    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    Thanks again to everyone for the updates. The legal documents are fascinating. I, too, am saddened by the ugliness of this crime.

    Praying Yingying gets the justice she deserves.
     
  9. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    Thanks for all the updates and recaps. I do pop in every few days, but have had nothing to add. Glad we are still following together.
     
  10. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    Aren't we all different?
    I couldn't imagine, these types of relationships can be long term, or are loving.:(:(
     
  11. dm92

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    Pretty quiet, not much news and no new court filings. However, I noticed that some of the plants in Yingying's garden have bloomed and are very pretty, so I will try to get some pictures sometime over the next few days.
     
  12. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Next hearing is 11/16 - hearing on objections to Juror questionnaire.
     
  13. dm92

    dm92 Well-Known Member

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    I am hoping that there will be rulings made on some of the defense motions before this, but maybe not, as the 16th isn't that far away....
     
  14. Elainera

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    That's so nice! Yes please post some pictures, I loved the first set you'd put up some time ago.
     
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    AS promised, more pics of Yinying's garden... 20181108_094433.jpg 20181108_094433.jpg 20181108_094424.jpg 20181108_094441.jpg

    Fall is taking its toll on the foliage, but one set of plants is in full bloom and they are very pretty and striking. This was what they intended. They picked a mixture of plants that bloom in spring, summer and fall, so that there would always be some color throughout the year except the winter
     
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    Thank you dm, it's amazing how well established the garden looks after such a short space of time. The orangey/golden plant looks very autumnal and blends with the foliage of the trees so well.
     
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    Many thanks, dm92.

    Some thought YYZ would be forgotten over time, as the years pass. I can see a student, an older person, a family taking time to read the script on the black stone, and asking who was she? They'll get answers from the Internet, possibly from those who knew her.

    Here's the garden dedication, for those who may have missed it.

    Yingying Zhang Garden to be dedicated
     
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    liltexans Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I can’t imagine ever forgetting Yingying. I hope I never do. I will gladly forget her murderer as soon as he’s convicted and sentenced, however.
     
  19. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    @liltexans , I can't imagine forgetting Yingying either. As to Christensen, I'm glad he's off the streets. Let him rot for the rest of his life in prison.

    I can't even imagine how Yingying's Family and Friends are doing. Hopefully, they'll eventually find comfort in their love for her, their love for each other, and their memories of her.
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Friday, November 16th:
    *Objections to Juror Questionnaire Hearing (@ ET) - IL - Yingying Zhang (26) (missing on June 9, 2017, Urbana; presumed dead) - Brendt A. Christensen (28) indicted (6/30/17) on kidnapping (Federal charge) resulting in death of Yingying and 2 counts of giving false statements to FBI. Plead not guilty; DA will seek DP.
    11/16: Hearing on objections to Juror questionnaire; 12/14, 17, 18 & 19: Hearing on pretrial motions & jury questions; 1/4/19: Submission of proposed jury questionnaire; 1/11: Jury questionnaire mailed; 1/18: Objections to jury instructions; 2/1: Conf. on jury instructions & selection; 2/8: Motion in limine; 3/1: Response to Motion in limine; 3/4: Motion to strike potential jurors; 3/11: Pretrial Conf.; 3/25: Final Pretrial Conf.; 4/2: Jury Orientation; 4/3: Jury Selection begins; 4/9: Trial begins, which should last about 5 weeks.
    7/13/18 Update: Defense files Motion for Order Required Gov’t to Comply w/Rule 12(b)(4)(B), pursuant to 4th, 5th, 6th & 8th Amendments. Calls for evidence that will be used in case-in-chief @ guilty or penalty trial where evidence maybe subject to motion to suppress.
    8/16/18 Update: Judge Bruce issued an order denying the motion by BC's defense team that the government provide documents detailing any communication between the White House and the DOJ or Trump and Xi regarding this case. Also denied their motion that the government provide more detail of the evidence they will use in support of the aggravating factors.

    8/24/18 Update: 24 motions filed by defense. Motion filed re reliability of DNA & blood testing used, seeking to suppress evidence, dismiss the main charge against their client and declare the federal death penalty unconstitutional. In a motion questioning why this case is a federal matter, Christensen's lawyers disclosed more information about his search of abduction fantasies on a fetish website, a detail they say is "overblown, hyperbolic, and misrepresentative of the facts." Christensen's lawyers argue, that his phone wasn't used "to commit the kidnapping or in furtherance thereof," and therefore, federal prosecutors can't claim jurisdiction. Prosecutors have argued that Christensen's phone was an instrument of interstate commerce used in committing the alleged crime.
    9/21/18 Update: Defense team have filed a motion asking for more time to decide on offering Atkins defense/mental health defense. Asked the Judge for a hearing on their request. If granted, it will likely mean the trial now set for April 3, 2019, would have to be pushed back.
    9/28/18 Update: Motion for Change of Venue filed by Defense (to Peoria division).
    10/16/Update: Defense filed notice they will not be using Atkins defense.
     
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