Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, and Liberty (Libby) German, 14/The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #88

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  1. Amstorrs

    Amstorrs Well-Known Member

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    My theory is based on this article from last summer:

    Delphi detectives working closely with investigators who cracked Fort Wayne cold case

    “While officers wait for that one last tip, investigators are using other tactics to track this man down, including DNA which is being analyzed by the Indiana State Police crime lab.

    “That information is then put into a national database,” said Sgt. Riley.”


    To me it would make sense if they got a hit on familial DNA. They wouldn’t have a suspect just yet, just a link to one. And they probably would not want to answer questions that could reveal the identity of the link, as that person would not be a suspect.
     
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  2. scruffydog

    scruffydog Active Member

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    I’ve always felt that he was a local, and also knew there was no school that day, and may have overheard the girls’ conversations about going to the bridge. Either overheard, or saw it on social media. I really don’t think they were random victims.
     
  3. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    Yes - I have long speculated he had been communicating with Abby; posing as a Bieber look-alike.
     
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  4. Jabarn

    Jabarn Well-Known Member

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    One thing that stymies me is how this press conference will provide new information, but there is no suspect, no questions will be allowed from the media. That’s a brazen approach.

    I would imagine the new information has to do with the leading suspect, BG, in his big blue coat, though.

    I know, it is confusing how the term suspect is used.
     
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  5. carbuff

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    I'm picturing more somebody they kind of knew, like somebody who works at a store where they shop or delivers packages in their neighborhood or lives a couple of blocks away or something along those lines.
     
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  6. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    What makes you think a Bieber look-alike (or posing as one)?
     
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  7. gregjrichards

    gregjrichards Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know how the U.S manages with the different time zones I would be so confused.

    The girl’s loved ones will be told beforehand what is being announced there is no way they would learn the information at the same time as the general public. It would be outrageous and cruel if law enforcement did that. They have obviously been advised to watch what they say to the media before the press conferences.

    I just hope it is a big breakthrough as I don’t know how much longer law enforcement can ensure media and public interest in the case which has definitely waned from the early days. It was very difficult to watch the last press conference till the end when it immediately became clear nothing new was going to be announced. It is going to be very interesting to see what Superintendent Carter has to say I have so much respect for him.
     
  8. Jackielee09

    Jackielee09 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed
     
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  9. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    It seems this LE team has been pretty good about keeping the family in the loop about what's going on, but it's sadly frequent that the families of victims are overlooked or forgotten completely. :(
     
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  10. buggiegirl

    buggiegirl Well-Known Member

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    I mean, upside, a dead guy isn't out there hurting anyone else.
     
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  11. IceIce9

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    I’ve never thought it was random. I’ve often considered how many people both girls came in contact with, either separately or when they were together. Someone who might have noticed them at the stores where they shopped, or gas stations, convenience stores, restaurants, etc. A person who looked at a vehicle for sale. Someone could develop an unhealthy obsession after any insignificant sighting of either one of them.

    Like you mentioned, it could be someone who lived a couple blocks away. Or, how about someone who visited someone who lived a couple blocks away? Or did some yard work, a handyman job, delivered lumber, etc. a couple blocks away. Endless possibilities.

    Less than a mile away from my house, three young people were murdered, and the link turned out to be the brother of the 13 year old girl had sold marijuana to the murderer. While he was buying the marijuana he took notice and returned later with two friends who murdered the three. Just an example of something relatively insignificant can result in murder.
     
  12. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    It was just an example to mean a cute young guy...posing as a romantic young guy interested in a sweet and innocent romance. : (
    I don't even know who the latest 14 year old heartthrob/"Bieber" is these days...
     
  13. FrostedGlass

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    I've often wondered if BG watched the girls play sports. I remember reading the Flora girls were also into sports.
     
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    Catfished in the worst possible way. I’m sure the public knows 40% or less than what police know. Which is a good thing.
     
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  15. MsBetsy

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    Since Indiana is not one of the 12 states that allow familial DNA searching, maybe LE had to go through a long process in order to get permission and that's why it took so long. (Assuming they have his DNA)
    I've read that even in the state's that allow it, there are certain restrictions. For example, they can only get permission after they have exhausted every other investigative option.
    Which I'm assuming they have by now.
    Anyway, we don't know what the big announcement will be that will turn the direction of the case but I'm really hoping it has something to do with the DNA.
    Unless, of course, it's something better than that. Imo
     
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  16. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Perhaps they were finally able to re-examine (Cybergenetics?) possibly inconclusive DNA evidence data (complex low level DNA mixtures, i.e. more than one/two individual's DNA for example) and have developed a DNA profile. It may or may not link BG to any other known cases.
    Now they can check genealogy databases..And now is the time for anyone (friends, family etc.) to come forward and talk!

    All IMO .

    -Nin
     
  17. Falcon500

    Falcon500 Verified Law Enforcement Detective/L.E. Procedures

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    Then why bother having a press conference? All that they will accomplish is having the suspect run or kill himself.
     
  18. heartgoesout

    heartgoesout Well-Known Member

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    "It's very frustrating for the family, it's very frustrating for the community of Flora and very frustrating for us," said Holman
    He says people need to overcome their fear.

    Sounds exactly like what they said about trusting the police in Delphi...
     
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    Jerrod Well-Known Member

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    Or a vindictive family acquaintance tuned in to one of the girls’ whereabouts.
     
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  20. carbuff

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    Hm, that's not a situation that I'd thought of. Interesting.
     
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  21. heartgoesout

    heartgoesout Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly the situation I've thought of.
     
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