Discussion in 'Located Persons Discussion' started by Tricia, Apr 22, 2019.
I've not heard of LE mentioning two people or an alibi. Where is this coming from?
That is so interesting, I didn’t know The Shack was brought up with regards to her as well. That’s hmmm, pretty coincidental. If the BG is in prison, that must mean there was no DNA left at the scene since his was taken and is searchable. Or maybe partial profile? Because if there was a match, they would have already nailed him, right?
Ha ha I was thinking the same thing!
Where/when did LE mention 2 people owning the vehicle? Please provide a link to this info. Thx.
ETA: OP hasn't responded to numerous requests here for a link. Thus, I conclude LE never said any such thing.
The more you have to twist plausible and logical circumstances of a crime to fit a theory the further you get away from the likely scenario. One or two unusual circumstances sure it’s possible, but when you start overlooking known simple facts you end up on the complete opposite side of the truth of the case.
The dots all have to connect, you can’t just simply draw around dots bc they don’t fit the picture you are trying to draw.
Many times cases like these are fairly straightforward, see, control, kill
The hard part for LE to solve is it being a random stranger killing
Libby was 200 pounds. I'm having a hard time accepting the theory that a single perp was able to carry the two victims around on very uneven sloped ground, with loose leaves and brush underfoot. There would be signs of dragging etc. And as others have said above, LE has been very clear that they believe the murder happened mins after the released video and audio footage happened. They have more audio they haven't released, but the family have listened to parts of it. They have a very good idea as to when/how the murders happened. They likely have physical evidence at the crime scene too, which probably supports their conclusion that the murders happened at that place (if there was blood, for instance).
I'm not seeing any released info from LE that supports a removal of the girls to a 2nd site and then a return of their bodies to the place they were discovered. There is a definite slope from the cemetery area down to the location of the bodies which would make transportation via carrying very difficult.
Bear in mind that people were searching from 3:15pm. No one saw a vehicle in the places theorized. The search continued privately all night long, which would make discovery a great risk. There's no logic to returning the bodies to where they were. JMO.
I'm nitpicking a bit, but can someone link to Mike Patty saying the cellphone "pinged all over town"? I found a quote by him and those are not his exact words. Could just be a quibble, but I think ppl are interpreting his words in a way which may not be as significant as people think.
Two girls are found dead after posting final photo on Snapchat in Indiana
I think he meant the phone was responding to pings for several hours around town before it died. Also, a cellphone can ping multiple towers if they are in close enough range. YMMV, of course.
Really they said that?
Yes, ditto this. Where is this verified? Link, please.
A part of this info is from another part of the forum and violates TOS. The poster just made a mistake.....moo
It appears not to be true. If this had been said, we'd have all known about it.
Correct me if I am wrong, but "The Shack" (as in the movie and/or book) was never officially brought up with regard to the NB case, not in the way Carter deliberately referenced it at the televised April presser regarding the Delphi murders. People are just making connections because NB was tortured and killed in a shed/shack. That is it. It's two different things, imo.
The suspect for the NB murder did not act alone, there are multiple people involved, he doesn't look anything like the #2 sketch, and it appears to be related to snitching and drugs (different motives). That suspect would not shock his family or friends if they found out he committed a violent murder. I'm struggling to find aspects that fit, aside from the fact that he's likely killed and tortured someone and is a criminal and has red hair. Where's the "hiding in plain sight" angle? Where's the "What would your loved ones think?" angle to the presser.
@tresir2012 you are being paged, numerous posters would like an answer and a link . . .
Perhaps let it go...
This is good advice. I'd also add that LE rarely flat-out lies to the GP. I don't know how many times I've heard someone "refute" a clear, fact-based argument by insisting that the opposite could be true. "Ha! That's what LE wants you to think!"
This is from Feb but I have not seen it , it's from discovery ID crime feed 'Somebody Has Named The Right Person' In Investigation Of Delphi Snapchat Murder Girls
When I watched the PC my vibe was something big happened. The overall tone was unusual. Reminded me of when there is a shift in momentum in a football game.
The car is significant and the 180 on the suspect is huge. Maybe they got a dna hit early on from the scene, but it was from one of the searchers or someone that accessed the scene that day which explained it away. If the scene was contaminated they would’ve/should’ve gotten samples from everyone that accessed it. Then when they sent additional evidence off to the FBI they got the same dna hit again on something else on the scene. Maybe it was where it wasn’t so easily explained away. Plus maybe the person kinda look like the younger sketch. Since the person was there on the 14th they now have to put them there prior to that hence the plea for car info on the 13th. MOO (this does mean my opinion only right.). Just a theory.
They must be newbies,transplants, you know because they use Umbrellas and can't properly pronounce Puyallup. Lol
This is an encouraging quote.
Basically, “I’m not saying that we have usable DNA, but we have usable DNA.”
Sergeant Coleman responded, "We will not deny or confirm whether or not we have DNA. But I think the public realizes that with a crime like this, it’s rare to not have DNA. We will reach out to the genealogy websites. Any new technology that comes available, we will use it."
TL4S THANK YOU!! Sometimes the most accurate scenario is the one that makes sense. If a perp robbed a bank on Monday (and LE has video cam, witnesses, recorded voice, DNA etc) would it make sense for the perp to walk into the very same bank the next day and deposit the money he just stole? I don't think so.
It might make for a Hollywood crime movie, but not here.
And I would also like to add, transporting bodies from one place to another (so sorry to have to put those words in writing) most assuredly intensifies/compounds the issue of DNA transfer. (There has got to be tons of DNA...but who's. WHO ARE YOU?) his murderous handiwork affected everyone. And btw, I do not think he is capable of "initiating facial expressions"....I think he is only capable of "imitating" the facial expressions of others.