IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #103

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  1. sumzero

    sumzero Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I don't think BG was walking back and forth along the trails in plain sight, since he probably wanted to limit his exposure to potential witnesses. I think he found a convenient place to park, maybe even secluded from view, from which he could get to the bridge. He decided to act when he had the girls cornered at the end of the bridge and he could see no one was about to cross the bridge at the other end. He got them "down the hill" as quickly as possible, so they'd be out of sight. I think he killed the girls, got to his car, and left the area before anyone knew something was wrong.
     
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  2. zencompass

    zencompass May today be the day. Justice for Abby and Libby.

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    Or... misleading information to throw the L.E. off someone's tail. Perhaps a relative or associate.

    I think something has come to light which has shown the L.E. they needed to turn the direction around towards a different focus.
     
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  3. TL4S

    TL4S Dumbified Clown

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    I'm willing to get on board with this for a minute. So let's say the vehicle wasn't BG's. And he didn't walk the trail. Where did he come from?

    He either had a vehicle somewhere else, or he lived within walking distance of the trail. But how did he know the girls were there?
     
  4. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    Because although they don't know who the person depicted is, maybe they suspect/know the person behind the depiction. MOO.
     
  5. zencompass

    zencompass May today be the day. Justice for Abby and Libby.

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    Great thought!

    And... now they need proof to build their case.
     
  6. zencompass

    zencompass May today be the day. Justice for Abby and Libby.

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    Let's say that those particular girls were not his targets.

    What if the perpetrator went there with the intent to kill a female. He ended up killing two.

    He knew that area very well and knew he had just enough time to do his monstrous deeds. It seemed to be common knowledge that the school was closed that day.

    I still believe that B.G. disguised himself and there were hidden objects in his coat.

    What reason would he have to walk on the bridge - on that particular day - and at that particular time (no one else was on the bridge on that time)?

    B.G. was dressed very warmly - not much of his face was even showing. Why did he choose to walk on such a precarious bridge - on that day? It's not as if he was walking on a trail - but on a bridge that looked unsafe?
     
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  7. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure you meant it to sound like the reason he was not sighted was the reason he committed the murder, but I do believe that he was careful not to let anyone see him and, if he was spotted, he would not have gone through with the murder.
    He may have cut through the woods to get to the bridge or at least so he could avoid walking as much as the trail as possible. Maybe this is one reason LE thinks he is familiar with the area. Imo
     
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  9. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    There was a later clarification in an update by ISP after the Press Conference (link posted just above):

    “It is important to distinguish these points about the two sketches

      • They are not the same person
      • The person depicted in the originally released sketch is not presently a person of interest in this investigation........”
     
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  10. pepper 34

    pepper 34 Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I think BG did a very good job of dressing up to look older than his age. Not suspicious at all, imo... just successful. The fact that LE says he might look younger than his age, imo, has nothing to do with how he appeared when he had finished preparing himself that day.
     
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    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Bump. Good info re the sketches.
     
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  12. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Yes thank you. you expressed my thoughts better than me.
     
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    kc1023 Well-Known Member

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    A = BG
    B = Sketch1
    C = Sketch2

    so B is not C

    but B was A for 2 years
    but now B is not A
    now C is A

    right?
     
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  14. zencompass

    zencompass May today be the day. Justice for Abby and Libby.

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    In the following Indiana Police Bulletin, they state:
    "This is the face of the suspect that goes with body of the video captured on Liberty German's cell phone minutes before she and Abigail Williams were murdered."


    Here is the Indiana State Police Bulletin:

    New 'Face' of the Delphi Murder Suspect

    April 22, 2019
    Look at the sketch, listen to the audio, watch how this coward walks on the high bridge and send your tip to this email: Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    [​IMG]
    This is the face of the suspect that goes with body of the video captured on Liberty German's cell phone minutes before she and Abigail Williams were murdered



     
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  15. bradfordsleuth

    bradfordsleuth Well-Known Member

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    Ding, ding, ding! :)
    I agree!
     
  16. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    I thought that's what you meant.
    I think you express your thoughts very well. Just wanted to confirm.
    I do think that he was very careful not to be seen as opposed to going to great lengths to disguise himself. Imo
     
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  17. sumzero

    sumzero Well-Known Member

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    When LE speaks with confidence about this new sketch, I like to keep in mind that for two years they were just as confident the old sketch depicted the suspect. Hard to know what to think sometimes.
     
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  18. zencompass

    zencompass May today be the day. Justice for Abby and Libby.

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    Dear kc1023,

    I agree. Well set out! If you're not a teacher - you should be!

    The witness(es) who described features for B (Sketch) 1 was deliberately misleading L.E. so that the B sketch pretty well matched BG's still photo.

    Something or someone led the police to realize this. This was likely what caused so much anger expressed during the recent press conference.

    It caused them to go towards a "new" direction.

    As the L.E. says (with depiction of new sketch):
    "This is the face of the suspect that goes with body of the video captured on Liberty German's cell phone..."

    New 'Face' of the Delphi Murder Suspect
     
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  19. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Great job at the math! I think what it proves is there was an error in the original hypothesis of “B is A”.

    As we know nobody actually witnesses the murder, all police have to go on is which lead appears most promising during the course of their investigation, so now they have substituted C for B.
     
  20. missmargot

    missmargot Well-Known Member

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    So B doesn’t actually exist. There isn’t a person who matches B who has been identified and cleared, B was a red herring all along.
     
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