IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #103

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  1. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Yeah, especially with the amount of time that has passed.

    Not only do I think that the odds of a social media connection have declined precipitously, but I think the odds of any sort of personal connection have declined as well.

    This is going exactly as one would expect it to go, if the perpetrator was a stranger.
     
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  2. Blue Amethyst

    Blue Amethyst Well-Known Member

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    JMO I agree. Squeaky clean and the parents are oblivious to the fact that sonny boy could even be involved. I think his small circle of friends are clueless too.
     
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    IQuestion Well-Known Member

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    Jumping off my post....I hate to ask, but I watched a lot of videos recently and there was a member of LE who stated (paraphrasing).... Some witnesses did not provide truthful alibis. I seem to remember it was at the end of a video/interview. Does anyone remember and have a link...it is really important. And, I don't normally ask for anyone to help me find videos, but I a got that "gut wrenching feeling".....ya' know the cold breeze type that says a storm is coming?
     
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  4. MingyMoo

    MingyMoo Well-Known Member

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    • Actually the real question is how did MP know the phone was pinging all over town?
     
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  5. drama_farmer

    drama_farmer "It's never just a mannequin"

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    All along, I've been assuming that the "man" they mentioned in the audio is BG. Has LE confirmed this anywhere in MSM? I'm trying to look at the elements in this case with fresh eyes. Isn't it possible they made an off hand comment about some other guy who was there that day? JMO
     
  6. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    No, I don’t believe it’s been reported where they walked on the bridge or if anyone other than the murderer would know. But your scenario is possible as well. LE also hasn’t said if additional photos were found on Libby’s cellphone, taken after the SC photo at 2:07 but prior to the video. I’m only guessing but most people take multiple photos and share very few.
     
  7. bradfordsleuth

    bradfordsleuth Well-Known Member

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    Is this the link?
    ISP on Delphi killer: 'Somebody may have already interviewed him'

    Or this?
    Police corroborating alibis given in Delphi killings
     
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  8. kc1023

    kc1023 Well-Known Member

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    jmo - i think they arrested RL shortly after saying that so it must be something older, around that time
     
  9. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Others here in the past have mentioned there’s an app that indicates which cell tower a cellphone is pinging to but I personally can’t verify that’s true.

    But if so, as we know cellphones ping to cell towers within range but also which have the greatest available free space at that moment, a cellphone that’s not moving can appear it’s “pinging around town”.
     
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  10. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    It’d be helpful if you include the exact quote.
     
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  11. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Just playing devil’s advocate - as it seems the murderer wasn’t aware Libby caught him in a brief video from afar nor had her audio turned on, he’d really have no reason to take her cellphone. Even more reason not to, if he thought the cellphone would track him instead.

    Then there’s the other possible scenario - the girls fled and Libby tossed the cellphone somewhere and he didn’t want to waste time looking for it.
     
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  12. x_files

    x_files Well-Known Member

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    Me too! I was also freaked out he wasn't even on LE radar even after he drove right past him. So the LE cruiser's cameras never recorded his car driving past? I find it so hard to believe!
    Do we know for a fact JP didn't research her address for her name etc...prior?
    He may have NEVER contacted her but I bet he researched her via sm, address, etc...
    I guess there's so much we may never know in this case until the coward turns himself in or a friend does!
     
  13. ZoriahNZ

    ZoriahNZ Well-Known Member

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    In one of the interviews/Q&A with Mike Patty and/or Becky Patty on Gray Hughes' channel, they talk about how they tried to find out info about the location of Libby's phone directly from the phone company while they were searching. They got the run around, but then law enforcement helped them out later that evening on the 13th. So presumably that's where the "pinging around town" came from (note it's not 'all over' town - small difference maybe but let's keep the quote accurate).
     
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    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Teens underdress in cold weather, imo. To me, forties is defintely jacket weather. When I walk I wear a jacket if under 60 degrees. I am not getting the bit about him being wildy overdressed for the weather.
     
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  15. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    There really isn't an exact quote. We don't know what the girls said, only know how LE phrased it, and it's been said in several different ways. Here's one of them:

    Police: Delphi murder victims spoke of man behind them in audio played for family

     
  16. Han

    Han Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for this answer. I wasn’t aware they received the ping information through their own efforts.
     
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    x_files Well-Known Member

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    The girl's intuition and the ability to pick up on his body language was indeed correct. He was acting odd for them to mention him and to record him otherwise it's just another guy on the bridge, right?
     
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  18. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    He may very well have sleuthed her online, but that hasn't been disclosed. And yeah, I can't believe that he literally drove right past LE with her in the trunk. That is also "the stuff of nightmares."
     
  19. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    This is absolutely correct. Cell towers will "load balance". Meaning, if one tower has high traffic and is reaching efficient capacity, it will direct incoming network traffic to the next nearest cell tower.

    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
  20. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    Perhaps I've missed it as this thread moves fast! Has anyone discussed whether Libby had "Find my Friend" on her phone? If they were catfishes and accepted the Perp as a friend on this app, he could have easily tracked them moment by moment.

    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
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