IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #106

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  1. Han

    Han Well-Known Member

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    I like your thought process.

    When I look at a crime I ask myself what is the smallest number of perpetrators who could handle this crime - speculation. But it’s much better to have evidence. Since we haven’t been given evidence that there was more than one perp, I stay with one.
     
  2. Blueberry2720

    Blueberry2720 Today would be a fine day for an arrest.

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    I know we can't discuss info from other forums, but can we provide a link to a post on one? It is just a basic informational post about the town of Delphi.
     
  3. Cutiekitty

    Cutiekitty Well-Known Member

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    No clue. I am curious now so I hope Mtnlites sees this and chimes in. Are you thinking of ways a younger person might know them, but not go to school with them? If so, I’d say the easiest way is SM.
     
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  4. janewall

    janewall Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure about need, but an accomplice could make things easier during the course of the crime – from controlling the girls once they were off the bridge and could have run in different directions (one along the road, one 'down the hill' and across the creek); to working quickly at the crime scene; to getting away and concealing/destroying evidence.

    The LE allusions to possible multiple persons, and failure to eliminate the scenario, are the main reason I'm considering it. Multiple assailants also would increase the chance of successful capture of two people without a firearm, and as we don't know what, if any, weapons were used, that's a factor too. JMO
     
  5. janewall

    janewall Well-Known Member

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    Homeschooling.

    ETA: quote from @acutename
     
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  6. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    There are quite a lot of people in the area who are homeschooled. Also private religious schools in Flora, Lafayette, and West Lafayette. One can live in Delphi and still attend private schools in another part. I have teenage family members in the middle school there, one in high school, and a couple in elementary. Despite the small size of the schools, they don't automatically know everyone in the different schools. My middle school cousins can only name a few people in high school, and those are either neighbors, youth group members, or family. People can remain surprisingly insular, even in small towns. The idea that "everyone knows everyone" in Delphi because it's a small town is really overestimating familiarity.
     
  7. janewall

    janewall Well-Known Member

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    DBM - duplicate post
     
  8. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    I think this is a distinct possibility, although I am unclear as to the current understanding from LE.

    If this is the scenario, I see the BG as the stoodge to a second guy. The procurer, if you will.

    I’m still unclear on this possibility, but I’m not ruling it out.

    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
  9. IQuestion

    IQuestion Well-Known Member

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    YES!!!!! bbm: "but when the dad called and caused the cell phone to ring, he got spooked and realized his time was short."
    Blitzkrieg attack and retreat to save his worthless backside.
     
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  10. IQuestion

    IQuestion Well-Known Member

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    In a nutshell. The tight time frame and LE asserting "if you are afraid, we can protect you."
    I don't think they are referring to the perp.
     
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    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    This isn't necessarily a reference to an accomplice. It could be addressing anyone who may know about the crime after the fact-including a spouse, roommate, parent, etc.
     
  12. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    In regards to the multiple perpetrator theory; I think this is very unlikely.

    I continue to believe this was sexually motivated, and I can’t fathom two men committing this crime, in this way.

    Two completely reckless killers, working in tandem in broad daylight, just seems far fetched to me.

    That’s two men who could leave DNA, and two men who likely would have been spotted by witnesses.

    One man was spotted on that bridge.

    One man was caught on audio.

    One man could have done this, especially if he had a weapon.

    I’m all in on one man.
     
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  13. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    Yeah. Witnesses could be scared, as this guy has already killed two people.

    They should be scared.

    I think this was simply an effort to coax someone to come forward, who is perhaps fearful of repercussions.
     
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    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    Right. And not just scared of BG and what he might do, but even fearful of repercussions from the justice system. Look at how many people have been arrested for unrelated crimes during this investigation.

    BG might have moved around quickly within the park, but he did NOT go unnoticed. Multiple witnesses saw him, a sketch has been provided, video footage was taken. He's not a mythical creature who slipped in and out like a ninja. He was simply out of there before it was determined that a crime had even been committed. For someone who probably knew the park well, it is not unfathomable to me that he did this alone.

    We can read into LE's statements, but I prefer to go with the simplest explanations.
     
  15. Han

    Han Well-Known Member

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    If they were referring to an accomplice they would show him to a jail cell.

    I’ll consider the tight time frame and respond later. It seems to be a valid point.
     
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    He's not a man, he's a weasel. MOO!
     
  17. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    I’d go “monster.”
     
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    Here is one honest mistake some classmates, and even more so, parents, might be making.

    They might assume that the girls did something to bring themselves in contact with the perp. Or that he was related to something in their lives. Girls are girls, they might have been young, active, mouthy, impulsive. We all here love them, but it does not mean that everyone in class was their friend.

    What I want to say, the classmates and their parents may truly not understand how sick the person/perp is. If not stopped, he will strike again.

    Anyone who is close and has an idea about BG’s identity should view tipping the police as protecting own kids.

    I wonder if the police has to reassure the Delphians that they will prosecute the guy no matter who he is. I think is is important.
     
  19. Charlot123

    Charlot123 Well-Known Member

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    @janewall, when I first opened my FB, it was open. Then I closed some of posts, then, all. But I know some of my friends still keep their FBs open.

    In terms of SA, I would not blame girls for having open SM. I would blame all these fetish forums, like the one boys and men, like BC, the murderer of YY Z, frequented. All these dark web sites. They create obsessed sex maniacs. You mentioned Libby being 14... at the same age, boys discover porn sites, and today these are not the regular ones, no, they come across stuff that is full of sadistic weirdness. And then they are hooked.

    You are right that moms of girls should monitor their daughters’ social media, but moms of boys should also check what sites their boys visit. And cut them off if they are even minimally concerned. It is probably even more important in order to create healthy society.
     
  20. janewall

    janewall Well-Known Member

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    Respectfully snipped for focus.

    The jail cell could depend on whether the accomplice was knowing or unknowing at the time of his helpful actions. If he was strictly transportation and cleanup help, he may only have realized his complicity after the fact – and that may be part of what he's scared of, if he's not comfortable with committing a crime or coming forward to face the legal penalty he expects.

    @rosesfromangels used the word "stooge" for BG. It may not have been BG who was the stooge. BG could very well be the main perp, and the stooge is the unknown party who simply gave him a lift, helped him get a bonfire started that evening, or unwittingly facilitated the murders and their coverup in some other way.

    I am not wedded to this idea of an accomplice. I tend to favor Occam's Razor in most situations, and in this case that would be a lone perp. But I can certainly see how it's possible there was another party involved in a subordinate role – and it would explain some of LE's vague answers, as well as their interest in the vehicle in the parking lot.
     
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