Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #115

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  1. sunshineray

    sunshineray Well-Known Member

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    I honestly think he misspoke after saying a sketch is not a photograph. I know this has all been discussed before. That is my take on it because of statements made since that the NBG sketch is the face of the killer. MOO
     


  2. almagata

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    I just finished reading "Permanent Record" by Edward Snowden. I highly recommend the book.

    One of Snowden's revelations in this book is that everyone from teens to geriatrics, male and female, have watched porn at some point in their internet surfing based on all the private personal data he had access to.

    With essentially everyone watching porn, I don't think we can make any correlations about porn being the cause of deviancy in the world.
     
  3. sunshineray

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    I've thought some form of misogyny possibly came into play. Killer could be an involuntary celibate, "an incel". It's an actual mental illness, it's even turned into an internet subculture. It's heartbreaking really, to read about how young men can feel so desolate and unloved that they turn violent.

    I'm not making excuses at all for BG's actions. It just breaks my mommy heart thinking that it's possible a little love could have made all the difference.
     
  4. sunshineray

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    I suppose watching and obsessing are two very different things. I do know that at the end in interviews, right before he was put to death, Ted Bundy did say porn played a major role in his deviant behavior.
     
  5. Ipurrender

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    I’ve been thinking about this last night and I just want to write this down and think out loud- what I THINK. All MOO. This might’ve already been speculated in an earlier thread too...

    BG is someone that knew the girls were going to be there that morning (well, at least knew that school was out). My mind goes to someone like a teacher, one of their coaches, etc. My main theory is that this is one of their classmates fathers. (Maybe someone they were in sports with it band?) Perhaps BG was watching one or both of them for awhile through sports or band practices, or school functions. If BG has a son that was in school with them it wouldn’t be that hard for him to get a hold of their social media accounts and follow them in that way as well.

    As to how he would’ve known the girls were going to be at the bridge at that time that day, I’m not too sure. I know Snapchat has locations so if he added them on that under the name of one of their classmates he might’ve had 24/7 access to their location. A lot of teens add their locations to posts now, too. I just can’t fathom this being someone randomly waiting at a bridge in hopes that someone who strikes their sick “interest” would pass by. This was calculated, possibly planned for awhile. MOO.
     
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  6. busymcmoody

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    This! Absolutely! Everything they did shortly before and during the PC was with the perpetrator in mind. Everything that was said there was said with the purpose to make him freak out and change his behavior, his appearance maybe, his mannerisms. Something that somebody close to him will spot and maybe start to question. JMO
     
  7. Sheila Terranova

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    Hmm...I respectfully disagree. I don’t think essentially everyone is watching porn.
     
  8. Cryptic

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    Christian can be a vague term as the term can be viewed differently by different people. For example:

    - Christian by self affirmation (if an individual states they are Christian, Muslim etc., then they are one)
    - Active verse nominal Christian or Muslim.
    - Christian or not Christian by a particular theological definition. For example, not saved? Then not a Christian. Never made a Shahaadah declaration? Impossible to be a Muslim.
    - Christian or not by evaluation of conduct (a real Christian would never do “X”. Or a true Muslim would never do “Z”.


    As the public as a whole can have very broad definitions of what makes them self identify as a “Christian” or say, a “Muslim”, it can be impossible to rule out a person’s religion for purposes of police investigation Of course, for purpose of a religious discussion, very narrow definitions of what a Christian or Muslim is, or is not can be applied. But…. that is a different matter.
     
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  9. busymcmoody

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    I hope not suicide by cop. This guy needs to be tried. I don't even wish death penalty on him...he'a gonna have a tough life in prison. MOO
     
  10. Boxer

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    Marking spot
     
  11. kc1023

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    I guess it depends on how and where he is caught. But I would think one of two things - he will either give up like a little mouse (JP style) or it will be a huge deal with a swat type of situation before he is arrested. I think if it is the second way, he will not talk at all and will be one of those guys that yells angry things at reporters on his perp walks.
     
  12. Tippy Lynn

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    He will show little to no emotion or crumble. I don't feel like there is going to be a middle ground once he's caught.
     
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  13. Cryptic

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    With this case, certain motives could still support a believing perpetrator: murders occurred as “just “punishment. Murders were needed to “protect” someone etc.

    The above aside, what this person possibly believes themselves to be and could self identifies as (Christian) is far more important than what evaluations a third person makes regarding their true religious state. As a result, the Sheriffs religious reference could be important and needed.
     
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    Emoting that you are the kind of person who would commit mass murder as revenge for being avoided by women is a great way to ensure women will avoid you.
     
  15. bradfordsleuth

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    Good question Mike!

    Hire the best attorney in the U.S.A. He knows he is going to need it....especially if he is going to try to avoid the Death Penalty.

    JMO
    I also think he is currently 'setting the stage' for his defense, which I suspect will be affiliated with a major life change that resulted in instant drug use that 'made him do it'.

    JMO, this isn't some person who is holed up in his parent's basement who is a social misfit.

    This guy is going about his 'everyday life', putting on the performance of his life....all the while looking over his shoulder to look for the flashing lights.

    He knows that LE is closing in on him.....Carter told him that on April 22nd with his statement, 'You want to know what we know....and one day you will....'

    I hope today is the day.
    JMO
     
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    They'll take him without incident...But then again I was wrong about Etter! He kept saying was going to kill himself for the better half of 5 hours and I said he won't kill himself, he regards his life more than he does others....1 hour later he shoots himself in the head...TWICE!!
     
  17. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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    I dont know.. I wouldn't think that someone knowen to these girls would spend time organizing and planning such a brutal and unorganized attack.

    I've have been wrong before though, so dont quote me.
     
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    I don't think we should wish tough life in prison on them. He had the future, and he destroyed it. I think the future of his relatives will be utterly destroyed, too, when the truth comes out. It is enough punishment. Life is prison is another one.

    All this "prison justice" is not right. Haven't we heard about someone being executed, and now DNA exonerated them? Think of the life they had in prison, and then they were executed, and they were innocent! What about all these people who ended in prison for rape, and now are exonerated by DNA? And they did have hard life in prison...

    We have to stop shouting for "prison justice".
     
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  19. busymcmoody

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    So by your reasoning he should not be punished?

    I hate to state the obvious but he WILL have a hard life in prison, it's not supposed to be a walk in the park. That's a fact. I also think it's just. This man needs to be held responsible for what he did and I imagine Libby and Abby's family will find no punishment hard enough.
     
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  20. almagata

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    I'm not saying that everyone sits there everyday and spends hours watching porn. What I am saying is that everyone has visited a website that has porn at one time or another.
     
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