Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #115

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  1. Charlot123

    Charlot123 Well-Known Member

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    Of course, religion is a very, very complicated issue.

    I use mine. A good Christian? How about not killing, not judging others, practicing forgiveness, love, and sharing?

    So mine is probably, conduct, and also, certain moral code.

    I know there are others.

    But if you ask me about BG - he loves himself, and he probably is moving farther and farther from whatever little Christianity he had, now.

    I think he feels remorse for ruining the lives of those close to him, though. And that today, he'd not make the same choice as 2 years ago. However, he was adult enough when he did what he did, and he has to answer for his deeds.
     
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  2. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Former Member

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    I think it is best to go with this PC easel sketch. It is larger with much more shading and detail, rather than the whitewashed copies elsewhere, as you say. It is the original as well.
     
  3. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Former Member

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    That's just not true. Unless you can link statistics from somewhere. Not everyone even has the internet.
     
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    bradfordsleuth Well-Known Member

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    JMO
    I respectfully disagree that it is 'enough punishment' that he had his future and he destroyed it and that prison is enough punishment.

    These young girls lost their opportunity at ANY future because of what he did.

    He has almost destroyed a small community. Their families, their friends .....everyone who's name has ever been uttered as a POI (and who actually isn't) and especially what he did to those girls, it is ALL ON HIM. EVERYTHING he did.

    If his relatives choose to stand by him, their lives will be destroyed, if they don't, their lives will STILL be destroyed simply by association to this monster. So he has affected even more people now.....

    I can say with a very large degree of certainty (which is only my opinion), that the wrong person isn't going to be put away for this crime. No way, no now. They are going to arrest one person for this crime, and it will be the right person when the time comes.

    If the boys in prison get a hold of him and make him feel even 1/10th of what these families have felt....then I am okay with 'Prison Justice'.

    All JMO
     
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    Indiana is a death penalty state .
     
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    busymcmoody Well-Known Member

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    I'm aware. I think life in prison would be much harder though. MOO though
     
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    I'm interested why you would have wished that? Do you think one might be correct or they are all too way out? Maybe good for a crime writer and maybe one is correct.
     
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    tresir2012 Former Member

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    Commit suicide like Paul Etter after a long chase and standoff. Could take a hostage - LE would have to be very wary of that. He is a double murderer so killing again would be nothing to him.
     
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    If in fact he is well known in the community, I can see him committing suicide. Not because he has remorse, but because at that point he won’t have control over his image.
     
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  11. zencompass

    zencompass Hope springs eternal

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    It is a matter of time before an arrest is made, leading to a solid conviction.

    I continue to have great faith in this investigation team and I truly believe that it will take more time but it will happen!

    Justice for Libby and Abby.
     
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    The population that Snowden was viewing in the NSA and CIA mass surveillance of personal private data were all internet users; either PCs or phones.
     
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    Everyone has their own form of healing. When you or a family member have been the victim of a heinous crime it is not up to us to judge how that healing comes even if that is prison justice to some.
     
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    I hesitate to weigh in on "prison justice." It's a very emotionally charged topic for some. Personally, I don't think most victims families endorse prison justice. On serious reflection, as much as we may in the heat of the moment think that's what we want, it really isn't. I think what all of us desire is true justice by the State. That is also their mandate. I am perhaps one of the few that would rather see the death penalty invoked for those who without a doubt committed a heinous, unprovoked murder of another. I also understand that it is not suitable for every murder case but some that come to mind from my area from recent times are Paul Bernardo and Karla Holmolka, Dellen Millard and Mark Smich and Colonel Russell Williams. I'm sure there are plenty south of the border that deserve it too. If/when Patrick Frazee is found guilty of Kelsey Berreth's murder, he's on my list as well. Unfortunately, CO will likely never execute another murderer.

    I believe when true justice is executed by the state, there is no need for prison justice and as stated by another member, what of those that are convicted innocents?

    As always, JMHO
     
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    True.
     
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    Of course he should be punished. Punishment is societal justice.

    He has to be brought to court, with good evidence, get a trial, and life without parole. Stay in his cell for 23 hours a day (like CW does, reading the Bible to the portrait of the family he destroyed).

    The rest - allowing the prisoners to mete our own justice - is not right.

    Life without parole is bad , and long, enough.

    There is society justice, which is law.

    And then there is prison justice, basically, the same @worse than street justice, and it is wrong, and it is lawlessness.
     
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    I don’t watch porn. I watched it a few times, and it produces comic effect on me, I can’t stop laughing. I think it is just the whole idea of two unknown people entering the room and starting busily...you know, looks very funny.
     
  20. zencompass

    zencompass Hope springs eternal

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    Dear SeattleStew,

    Thank you so much for sharing the news article and video!

    I agree - it's so important for this to continue to be in the news!
     
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