Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #133

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  1. MadMcGoo

    MadMcGoo Well-Known Member

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    His identity (or appearance) actually didn’t have an affect on me. When I first read about their “interest” in him, I immediately thought of his MO. Beating, sexual assault. I figured that was why he might have garnered their attention.
     
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  2. UnapologeticallyAspie

    UnapologeticallyAspie Well-Known Member

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    But do we actually know, for a fact, that Abby & Libby we’re sexually assaulted and beaten?
     
  3. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    My apologies, I accidentally posted this in the JC thread, but I meant to post it in here. Sorry, totally crosseyed.

    For you all’s convenience, here is the media thread link for JBC in case you need a quick catch-up and/or source links, references, etc. - It includes his SM profiles, msm, court records/arrests, inmate information & dates, maps, etc. (It is still a work in progress, haven’t finished bringing everyone’s over yet -thanks again to all, collaborative effort and teamwork.)

    IN - James Chadwell II, 42, missing girl, 9, found in his home, 19 April 2021, MEDIA *NO DISCUSSION*
     
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  4. MadMcGoo

    MadMcGoo Well-Known Member

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    NO! I don’t think any of us know for certain. I just assumed (I know) that something caught their eye. And for me, it wasn’t the resemblance to the sketch. Either sketch really.
     
  5. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    FBI poster description of BG:

    "The person depicted in the composite sketch is described as a White male between 5'6" and 5'10", weighing 180 to 220 pounds, with reddish brown hair. His eye color is unknown. The suspect is believed to be between 18 and 40 years old but may appear younger."

    https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/liberty-german/@@download.pdf
     
  6. CrimeAway

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    You would think so, but I've heard so many horror stories about lost evidence, problems with chain of custody, unauthorized people in evidence rooms, rape kits in employee fridges, etc etc, that nothing surprises me anymore. All MOO etc.
     
  7. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    We've often speculated over the years BG would be caught when he committed another crime. That just happened, imo.

    We also speculated that for some reason BG's DNA was not in the database. Perhaps because BG's felonies were not sex crimes, his DNA was (mistakenly?) not included in LE's search for a match.

    And, if LE were looking for people convicted of previous sex crimes, they wouldn't find JBC. I don't think this means he didn't commit sex crimes, but wasn't caught. He might have repeated an m.o. that worked until it didn't.

    I'm braced for bad news, but I am also hopeful this is BG.

    jmo
     
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  8. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    We don’t.
     
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  9. CrimeAway

    CrimeAway Well-Known Member

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    I wish that I didn't want to like this post a thousand times.

    We HAVE to demand better of our legal system from evidence collection on the scene, all the way through local LEA, transport to labs, evaluation, and possible prosecution, IMO.

    EVERYONE, including first line officers, detectives, FIRE-FIGHTERS, EMS, and ER staff need to be trained on the importance of scene and evidence preservation, chain of custody etc. (IMO)
    Obviously, human survival takes precedence, but as soon as it is established that the victim of a crime is deceased, securing the scene and evidence should be of paramount importance, IMO.

    I think that funding forensic science, both from an evidentiary, and psychological perspective should be a priority for local, state and national governments, but that's just my opinion.
     
  10. margarita25

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    It could be a while before we know anything either way, jmo.
     
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  11. MsBetsy

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    I think everyone arrested for any felony in Indiana has a DNA sample collected as soon as they are booked. So if there was a match, LE would have found it a couple of years ago. Imo

    I'm not sure we know what kind of DNA was collected from the crime scene, but at one point I remember Leazenby saying they were considering familiar DNA testing, so it must be a good enough sample to find a match in their database.
     
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    Bridge Gal??

    nope, doesn’t sound right. :)
     
  13. mpnola

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    Taunting. Thats the exact word that I keep saying about him. From the knife on the artwork. To the weird posts RIGHT before he lured and attempts to murder a child. Stealing from a liquor store and then saying he did it bc he knew they wouldn't prosecute. That's just the tip of the iceberg of things we KNOW. So consider that same line of thinking and look at other things..... it just feels like he blatantly taunts. To see if anyone will catch on. It's part of the thrill, for him, I think.
     
  14. SBops

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    How many serial rapists or murders DNA are in those rape kits that do not seem to be important enough to test and record? Thousands of them going back, years and years.
    What is the point of taking swabs from a rape victim if they are going to be shelved. It almost seems deliberate.
     
  15. jjs

    jjs Waiting for justice...

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    Just spitballing re: DNA...

    So, being that LE *is looking into him* for "several reasons" (as per ABC I think it was)...

    That means that either:
    A) his DNA is not in the system (for whatever reason) or
    B) they don't have good enough DNA to match or have someone else's DNA

    They wouldn't be looking into him if they had his DNA *in the system", AND a (good) profile of BG DNA. Right??

    Come on. Give me the fallacies of my statement.
     
  16. Number8

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    Absolutely not, without a doubt the only thing LE has been insistent about from the beginning is that they will not share any details of the crime scene as it is their hold-back.

    The only thing we know with any certainty is that there was a definitive “signature”. And we might never know what that was
     
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  17. JWSleuth

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    Excellent point!
     
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  18. margarita25

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    Bringing forward earlier article for context:

    Delphi investigation reward fund gets $100k donation
    April 5, 2021

    BBM

    “"We have a witness. You made mistakes," Carter said.

    "We are coming for you and there's no place for a heartless coward like you to hide that gets his thrill from killing little girls."

    Over the years, police have received tens of thousands of tips.”

    [...]

    “The Indiana State Police and Carroll County Sheriff's Department will not publicly clear anyone in this investigation until an arrest has been made.”
     
  19. margarita25

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    Photo on bridge with train in background
    Brian Chadwell
    May 16, 2020

    April 25. 2019
    Cabelas Hat
    on Bridge over river
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    Fishing/tattoo
    Brian Chadwell
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    Fishing underneath bridge with another bridge in background
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    April 17, 2019
    River in “Kokomo”
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    Some Bullet & Injury pics section
    (Warning graphic and GROSS, eye/brain bleach required)

    July 18, 2018
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    Facebook

    injury
    Brian Chadwell..
    injury
    Brian Chadwell..

    bullet
    Notice additional red markings on other side
    July 14, 2018
    Brian Chadwell
    *wth is that a bite Mark? What’s that circle? Why is it perfectly around the wound?
    Brian Chadwell
    July 14, 2018



    it appears cross is part of dream catcher


    my bad, earlier when I quickly quickly scanned I thought it was jewelry, I haven’t analyzed anything yet, just trying to bring index, note stuff before it goes poof.

    *I do recall him wearing a cross necklace though, I think.
     
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    I really really hope this is him! It would be amazing for the killer to finally be caught.

    Some of his FB posts make out like he is against men following/harming girls :rolleyes:
     
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