Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #139

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Thank you for sharing this interview it is much appreciated. Liberty’s Grandfather has done such a great job speaking with the media to appeal for information. So have her Grandma, her Sister Kelsi and Abigail’s Mum and Grandfather have as well. I have so much admiration for how they have done everything they can to try and help the investigation after experiencing an unimaginable tragedy. It must be so difficult for them getting through each day and they have the constant worry that there would be more victims and more families suffering like they are.

I hope and pray that an arrest(s) and charges are coming for the girls murders as soon as possible and they will finally be able to grieve the devastating loss of Abigail and Liberty. I’m sure the girls would be so proud of their loved ones and very grateful to them for everything they have done to help find their killer.
It is a well-done interview. She is respectful and thoughtful in asking her questions and allowed Mr. Patty a chance to really answer them.

He reiterates the request for the public's help. I hope that the victims of the anthony_shots account are seeing the press coverage and come forward with information that can help.
 

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Delphi murder investigation into online profile Anthony Shots

IMO the 2nd sketch of who LE provided strongly resembles the photos of the social media account. I remember that presser from a couple years ago, how LE said they shifted gears. Not sure anyone really understood why the sketch changed so much.
I remember the discussions on here about the individual’s voice. A lot of us said that it wasn’t the voice of a young man. The 2nd sketch just didn’t fit the image a lot of us had in our minds IMO.
Time will tell where this info will lead. Fingers crossed for a solved case.

This quote from the article stood out to me. It was reiterated during the broadcast as well.

"This information was used while contacting juvenile females to solicit nude images, their addresses and in attempts to meet with them."

There has to be a digital footprint between one of the girls (or both) and the anthony_shots account. Someone who had access to the fake account wanted physical contact with juveniles. If it wasn't KK, it was someone else who had access to the account or to the information that KK collected.

It's a rabbit hole, but at least it appears to be a legit rabbit hole.
 

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This may not be related at all in the slightest, but I just read about a guy who was arrested recently in the UK who was doing a similar thing to KK, but had thousands of victims across the world, even in the US.

He was making compilation videos of the abuse he had manipulated kids & adults into sending and then selling those to other gross pedos. These videos were his SOLE source of income, that's how much money he made from it. Timing of that arrest interesting too.

Abdul Elahi: Blackmailer sold abuse 'box sets' to paedophiles

It's not a stretch to think this is what KK was doing/was trying to do. This was announced yesterday.
 

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The Vegas link is musical, I believe. I'm pretty sure this is his Spotify account: Kegan Kline

"26 Year old Native American musician born & raised in Indiana now residing in Las Vegas. He is Signed to Artery Management Foundation, Which is in partnership with Razor & Tie. He has co-wrote songs with Beartooth, The Traditional, Cute Is What We Aim For. He is currently working on multiple projects with multiple artists for 2020 & 2021. 
 - Ken Miller, Las Vegas Magazine"

On a side note, just reading the Wikipedia right now for Razor & Tie and it is interesting. Apparently the two guys behind it met in law school and left practice to form Razor&Tie. They also created Kidz Bop...
 

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So where exactly was KAK on 2/13/17? Has he actually been ruled out?

I’m trying to make sense of the dates and timeline from the information that’s been released.


LE has Libby’s social media, including her Instagram, so at a minimum they know if / when the anthony_shots profile first liked her Insta. Did he deny that was him operating the account at that time?

On Facebook, KAK listed his employment at the California Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas as starting 2/13/17. Have they confirmed this with the Casino?
Log into Facebook

His ISP record records the date of this charge as 2/17/17. Yet the Peru search warrant wasn’t executed until 2/25/17. So, how did this charge occur on 2/17/17?
35-42-4-4(b)(2)/F4: Child Exploitation enhanced by an aggravating factor found in 35-42-4-4(c)(1).
Indiana Supreme Court public access case search - MyCase

KAK’s home address was linked to the profile account in Feb. 2017. “A subpoena sent to Comcast for an IP address led investigators to a residence in Peru”
Court documents show no link between fake online profile and Delphi murders | 95.3 MNC
 

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Could you do us Pit Bull rescuers a big favor and just say dogs rather than single them out, please? Pit Bulls are usually completely rehabilitated, after weathering atrocities that I have no words for perpetrated upon them by humans, and find forever homes. I can't say enough about how resilient and amazingly forgiving is this breed. I only wish humans were half as kind and loving. This world would be such a nicer place.
In my post I was refering to jbc’s dogs who were pit bulls. It was not my intention to single out the breed. Sorry if I offended anyone by not making that clear. I am a pit bull fan, owner and rescuer. As I was posting about jbc’s dogs, memories of their photos and video’s he had posted were running thru my mind and triggering my emotions. I suspect his dogs were abused and they were not given a chance for rehabilitation.
 

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So where exactly was KAK on 2/13/17? Has he actually been ruled out?

I’m trying to make sense of the dates and timeline from the information that’s been released.


LE has Libby’s social media, including her Instagram, so at a minimum they know if / when the anthony_shots profile first liked her Insta. Did he deny that was him operating the account at that time?

On Facebook, KAK listed his employment at the California Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas as starting 2/13/17. Have they confirmed this with the Casino?
Log into Facebook

His ISP record records the date of this charge as 2/17/17. Yet the Peru search warrant wasn’t executed until 2/25/17. So, how did this charge occur on 2/17/17?
35-42-4-4(b)(2)/F4: Child Exploitation enhanced by an aggravating factor found in 35-42-4-4(c)(1).
Indiana Supreme Court public access case search - MyCase

KAK’s home address was linked to the profile account in Feb. 2017. “A subpoena sent to Comcast for an IP address led investigators to a residence in Peru”
Court documents show no link between fake online profile and Delphi murders | 95.3 MNC
Possibly caught spoofing
edit to add: ping records would prove spoofs as one cannot be two places at the same time
 
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Jmo and food for thought. Our prison system works on a revolving door it seems. After reading and watching perps videos it seems they feel more at home in prison then the real world. They wish the real world was as comfortable but when released they cannot connect. They commit crimes to put them where they feel more accepted by others. Kinda a Shawshank thing. It is my observation.
Edit to add more moo: It is not always the case as it isn't a 1 size for all. Just observing.
 

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Thanks! This sheds some clarity on one major question:

When did law enforcement learn of a possible connection between KAK and Delphi?

The answer appears to be fairly recently.

Someone else might have already said this, I’m catching up on the thread, but Cellebrite software, which is able to recover data from factory reset phones, was made available to local LE in 2020. This is when KAK was arrested and had the additional charge of obstructing justice added - which I guess was related to his lies about, and deletions from, his iPhone 5c.
 
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I am intrigued. Does this theory implicate KAK, or instead indicate someone else was operating the anthony_shots account? Please tell me more.
My theory is they were onto him as Shots. Records can indicate each case he may have spoofed himself into a location. Such as Alaska and Nevada. How they were able to hone in at the start I am not sure but they had to be on to him and there was no denying facts which concluded in confession. Jmo
Edit to add... a cop could have been a decoy and perp was caught.
 

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Someone else might have already said this, I’m catching up on the thread, but Cellebrite software, which is able to recover data from factory reset phones, was made available to local LE in 2020. This is when KAK was arrested and had the additional charge of obstructing justice added - which I guess was related to his lies about, and deletions from, his iphone 5c.

That’s super interesting…
 

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Someone else might have already said this, I’m catching up on the thread, but Cellebrite software, which is able to recover data from factory reset phones, was made available to local LE in 2020. This is when KAK was arrested and had the additional charge of obstructing justice added - which I guess was related to his lies about, and deletions from, his iPhone 5c.
I did not know this about the software being allowed in 2020 and that's when he was arrested. I wonder did they use this software on Libby's phone after her factory reset? Great post.
 

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News 8 exchanged messages with him after this week’s developments. He said, “I am very heartbroken to hear what happened to those two girls, as i have two daughters myself. I’m in contact with the Indiana State (Police) and am helping in any way possible.”

Based on his previous posts this is not the first time the man’s photos have been used to create a fake online profile. He shared that previously his photos were used to create fake online dating profiles as well.
Man whose photos were used in fake 'anthony_shots' account is 'heartbroken'

Note: We now also have the most likely reason the Alaska reference was in the Insta Profile description
 
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