i however elsewhere saw ...( panties and sock) ..thats one letter difference
Didn't that one have a different style 'a' to the unredacted document, so was likely fake.
i however elsewhere saw ...( panties and sock) ..thats one letter difference
Thanks KELL1, Can always rely on you to give background on possible type of offender. Are you saying it is a pent up resentment (anger towards females, job, relatives, health, break up) as you wrote, "fueled by sexual materials the offender likes?" Even if it was a growing compulsion, wouldn't the offender still use other "instincts/familiar locale/learned behavior/skills" to offend, attack and escape. Afterall, this wasn't a crazed surfer who attacks women on the beach, a co-worker who traps a female employee in the company parking structure, a guy who drugs a woman at a bar etc.
What bothers me the most is the use of words like "sickness" and "problem".... euphemisms to describe unspeakable criminal issues. These guys know it is immoral, they know it is criminal and why (IMO) they work so hard to hide their activities. The offender knows it is wrong and yet still commit the crime..... in my book that is premeditation.
(I still see the step-drag-step drag type of gait as BG approached...even if no one else does. The planks aren't as damaged at either end of the bridge. I wish the pressers had never said he walked that way because the bridge was dilapidated and to look at mannerisms instead. C'mon I didn't say I saw baby goats, too.)
It was heavily discussed when it came out last year. It probably took on more importance because there was no press conference at the 4 year mark. It was the first time I can recall hearing ANYONE from LE firmly admitting that they not only have DNA, but that they were not certain they had the killer's DNA. Sheriff Leazenby had previously stated they had A fingerprint, but he not only says 'fingerprints', plural, but like the DNA they don't know if they belong to the killer. Good idea to repost.Link for LE interviewed: I hadn't heard previously, though I may have missed it discussed.
Some details are addressed directly. Perhaps newer people here would find helpful? Over the years of basics, some may have forgotten. (Like me!) Should I be posting this elsewhere (in media?) and if so, how do we access other links to this case?
Thanks for reposting!Link for LE interviewed: I hadn't heard previously, though I may have missed it discussed.
Some details are addressed directly. Perhaps newer people here would find helpful? Over the years of basics, some may have forgotten. (Like me!) Should I be posting this elsewhere (in media?) and if so, how do we access other links to this case?
Thank youHere's one with 29 photo's to start with.Delphi murder update: New sketch, info released
Indiana State Police release new sketch, extended video and audio files in search for killer.eu.jconline.com
I googled press conferences but couldn’t see much since cameras were mostly focused on LE. Maybe we could reach out to a local camera person who was there and willing to share pics? I’m happy to scour and search whatever we gain. Just let me know please. Thanks!Thank you
I have so many saved from the presser that I have already spent 2 hours going thru some of them.
I will keep searching tonight
We live in a small town in Wisconsin and my 10 year-old isn’t allowed to go anywhere by himself because all the other parents are paranoid too and no kids are out playing unaccompanied by adults. I use the crocodile/baby hippo example all the time with him because he doesn’t get why he isn’t old enough.With these types its not usually a learned behavior however, its usually a sexual issue that's been held at bay for awhile and sometimes, fueled by sexual materials the offender likes , then they come across the victim(s) with no adult presence and they act. they are more like killers in waiting than active predators, (more like a crocodile than a wolf if you will)
Or misplaced anger, that the victim was simply representative of .
There are 2 unbreakable rules, to teach kids,We live in a small town in Wisconsin and my 10 year-old isn’t allowed to go anywhere by himself because all the other parents are paranoid too and no kids are out playing unaccompanied by adults. I use the crocodile/baby hippo example all the time with him because he doesn’t get why he isn’t old enough.
Thank you very much. I did not hear the interview. I am a fast reader, so I skip podcasts, but I had to hear TL’s voice. Maybe TL should not blame himself. I imagined both scenarios in my head, two “clouds” of suspects, and thought that in TL’s shoes, I would have probably made the same mistakes, because they are of “to err is human” type.Link for LE interviewed: I hadn't heard previously, though I may have missed it discussed.
Some details are addressed directly. Perhaps newer people here would find helpful? Over the years of basics, some may have forgotten. (Like me!) Should I be posting this elsewhere (in media?) and if so, how do we access other links to this case?
And again, I am positive that RL’s DNA and fingerprints were checked, so one might as well drop him off that list. MOO.
Thank you very much. I did not hear the interview. I am a fast reader, so I skip podcasts, but I had to hear TL’s voice. Maybe TL should not blame himself. I imagined both scenarios in my head, two “clouds” of suspects, and thought that in TL’s shoes, I would have probably made the same mistakes, because they are of “to err is human” type.
I don’t know how you interpret TL’s interview, but to me it is obvious that: 1) it is not an outsider - good news for us non-Midwesterners, might stop looking for people with neuropathy among our neighbors…)))
2) that their DNA and fingerprints have an “owner”, but their presence can be 100% explained. Maybe one of these prints/DNA is at the place that is inexplicable, but the person was smart enough to leave others during the search, so all in all, it weakens the case.
And again, I am positive that RL’s DNA and fingerprints were checked, so one might as well drop him off that list. MOO.
3) that the person is neither a criminal, nor local famed methhead; it is someone whose presence at the crime scene or near the girls is also explained (either part of the search party, or someone close to the girls, or both). JBC is also firmly scratched off, so is KAK. JMO.
The only other situation when a person was not present in the search party but is a killer is if his relative was present, and there is “transfer DNA”. But the chance is slim.
4) that maybe, that “eureka!” happened much later. Someone decided to check fingerprints left on a table glass, or so. Just out of sheer joke, “oh, btw, have we checked so-and-so?” And to their horror, found out that they matched. It is just my idea. That situation was random.
I grew up in Los Angeles in the 80s and had zero supervision my husband grew up in this tiny town and we get into it all the time about assuming everyone is a murder pervert and being pleasantly surprised when it turns out to not be true, because of our upbringings!There are 2 unbreakable rules, to teach kids,
1) Never go anywhere with anyone, even family without directly asking (not telling) a parent first
2) At all costs....Stay away from vehicles, a vehicle is used in 96% of abductions, once the victim has been moved, their survivability goes down exponentially.
therefore its imperative you drill these with your kids
-Never approach any type of vehicle even if someone tells you they are a police officer and tells you to come near.
I see the gait. He picks up his whole leg and drops it instead of just walking with his knees.Thanks KELL1, Can always rely on you to give background on possible type of offender. Are you saying it is a pent up resentment (anger towards females, job, relatives, health, break up) as you wrote, "fueled by sexual materials the offender likes?" Even if it was a growing compulsion, wouldn't the offender still use other "instincts/familiar locale/learned behavior/skills" to offend, attack and escape. Afterall, this wasn't a crazed surfer who attacks women on the beach, a co-worker who traps a female employee in the company parking structure, a guy who drugs a woman at a bar etc.
What bothers me the most is the use of words like "sickness" and "problem".... euphemisms to describe unspeakable criminal issues. These guys know it is immoral, they know it is criminal and why (IMO) they work so hard to hide their activities. The offender knows it is wrong and yet still commit the crime..... in my book that is premeditation.
(I still see the step-drag-step drag type of gait as BG approached...even if no one else does. The planks aren't as damaged at either end of the bridge. I wish the pressers had never said he walked that way because the bridge was dilapidated and to look at mannerisms instead. C'mon I didn't say I saw baby goats, too.)
Better to be pleasantly surprised than the opposite.I grew up in Los Angeles in the 80s and had zero supervision my husband grew up in this tiny town and we get into it all the time about assuming everyone is a murder pervert and being pleasantly surprised when it turns out to not be true, because of our upbringings!
Better to be pleasantly surprised than the opposite.
Though you should be vigilant, some take it to a whole different level..
Being sure is good, but theres no need for paranoia over it, as a matter of fact, being constantly suspicious of everything actually weakens natural intuitive response to danger.
Theres an excellent book on just that I dont know if the WS gods will let me post the name of here
It's interesting to me that you had zero supervision in the 80s. Maybe because you're in L.A. and I'm in NYC.I grew up in Los Angeles in the 80s and had zero supervision my husband grew up in this tiny town and we get into it all the time about assuming everyone is a murder pervert and being pleasantly surprised when it turns out to not be true, because of our upbringings!