Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #90

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  1. Onaliv

    Onaliv Well-Known Member

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    When you combine that demeanor with the request to leave the family alone for 2 weeks, your supposition makes even more sense...
     
  2. Tillicum

    Tillicum Well-Known Member

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    Just my thoughts on Carter's use of the words "power" and "coward", holding a gun or knife to the victims to control them would give them a sense of power but a coward would feel more confident and powerful using a stun gun. Talk about stuff of nightmares.
     
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    Agree. Guys is a term used alot by native Hoosiers. Like "Pop" when referring to sodas. The way this guy walks does not appear to be a young fellow. But I read the new sketch was based on an eyewitness account.
     
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    A cop? A preacher? A teacher? A family friend?
     
  5. ab01

    ab01 "What is done in the dark always comes to light"

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    I wonder if it had to do with maybe Detectives originally thought that the first sketch didn't very well resemble the video image of BG?
     
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    chihuahua Well-Known Member

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    Carter probably told the families himself what the "new info" was right before the presser.
    They were likely very dismayed that this probably wasn't going to lead to an immediate arrest, and their dismay and possible anger probably effected his demeanor.
    Just imagine what their response may have been, and how that would have made him feel.
    this is jmo,
    Chi
     
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    carmenugt Well-Known Member

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    When you work in a career where you see crimes against children, it is all personal.As a clinician, the toughest thing is working with child victims. It is always personal with first responders.
     
  8. Jackielee09

    Jackielee09 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t read into “guys” I’m from Texas and when my sister walks into room she says “hey guys”!! What’s up? And we are all girls in the room.
     
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    Or someone who knows he has the power and control.
     
  10. moonriverfarm

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    I have a gut feeling it's either a reporter or someone involved in law enforcement.
     
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    I am not local, but it was said to be an unseasonably warm day and that was why the girls were there to start with.
    IMO BG was wearing more than one layer of clothing.
    I think he was wearing a brownish hoodie under a much larger and thicker coat filled w/down or some other material.
    jmo and I'll check in later hoping for justice.
    Chi
     
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    Add to that the curious fact that the family left the room apparently quite upset before it began, and it seems to indicate that there is more to this than meets the eye.
     
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    It was unusually warm 7 degrees Celsius and sunny Weather in February 2017 in Delphi, Indiana, USA one of the girl’s didn’t want to take a jacket and Liberty’s sister made them take one. I saw that on the recent HLN special.
     
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    I am a strong supporter of police and truly believe that most are in that profession out of a true desire to "protect and serve". It is a tough career choice for many reasons - safety concerns, odd/changing hours, the horrible things you witness, etc. But there will always be "bad apples" in all walks of life. Just the other day a NJ State Trooper was arrested for possession of child pornography. Several years ago another police officer and his girlfriend were convicted of drugging and sexually assaulting minors.

    I was a volunteer EMT and became very good friends with a lot of the police officers in our coverage area. I later became and ICU/Trauma Nurse and did an internship in Death Investigation so I had a lot of close contact with police. Watching Doug Carter speak yesterday and hearing the emotion in his voice gave me a gut feeling that there is a possibility that BG is in LE or connected to some aspect of LE, too. The case in general, with the horrific murders of two sweet girls is certainly enough to make someone emotional, but I felt there was a certain "edge" to his emotion and agree with some previous comments that it seemed to speak to the betrayal of the killer being someone close that they previously trusted as well as anger that they didn't see the evil that person manages to mask every day.
     
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    not gonna lie, makes me wonder if it's a fellow cop. especially the way he said suspect could even be "in this room right now"
     
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    Yes, Libby's family, specifically her grandparents, attended Delphi UMC.
     
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    I completely agree. He's heard and seen every piece of evidence from day 1. It was like he was struggling to not just completely go off in a rage.
     
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    I sure would like to know what the person witnessed that they felt needed to be reported. What was the suspect doing?
     
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    Just to clarify, that's 7 degrees Celsius or about 45F
     
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    I noticed it too. I thought maybe the right leg is shorter than the left, or that there was a knee injury/surgery that required him to lift his thigh so high to step. Something is off with the right leg. Could it be a brace? Seems to use his hip to lift his leg.
     
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