Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #90

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  1. carmenugt

    carmenugt Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know a physical therapist that can review the "gait" video? They would be the experts.
     
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  3. dogmatica

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    While I agree in general, his reaction and demeanor seemed "fresh".
     
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    If one or both did or did not, it appears there is entertainment open to the public at this church. It appears there is a band that has tours, but is from Delphi. So it could be a place either of the girls could visit even if they did not attend regularly. The band appears to follow the delphi murders via social media.
     
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    I agree, chilling to think about. While I know we have no evidence there is any communication between LE and the perp, I think Carter's comment about knowing that the perp wants to know "what we (LE) know, and you soon will" (or something to that effect) is telling if we assume that the perp has been communicating with them. (pure speculation on my part).
     
  6. MsArk

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    This has probably been addressed but I went back and listened to the PC. He referred to the vehicle being abandoned between the hours of 12 pm - 5 pm, not permanently abandoned. Also, he speaks to the killer for at least half of the PC, which I also find interesting.
     
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    It may be an artefact of perspective/ the fact that he's turning direction towards the girls.
     
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    eyeofneedle New Member

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    Maybe a setup
     
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    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Somebody in a position of trust.

    Also recall Police Supt Carter's words about how the perp will react when everybody finds out what he did to the innocent girls.
     
  10. buggiegirl

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    I am going to guess that if LE has DNA, it's not the type they know is conclusively from the killer. If it's from semen or skin or blood under one of the girls' nails, then sure you know it's likely from the killer. But if they found it at the crime scene, it could just be some random passerby's. How much would it stink to do all that genealogy research to find that guy was just some random person and not involved.
     
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    I have plantar fasciitis and when I start walking and for a few min I walk w a limp. Then foot warms up and I walk normal. It’s so hard to tell anything in video because it’s looped
     
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    In this day & age, with cameras everywhere & digital & DNA technology, would it really be possible for someone to taunt LE without being IDed??
     
  13. Boxer

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    Sounds like it fits to events to me.

    Libby videos an assailant in baggy clothes.
    Looks 40.
    A witness comes forward immediately after the murders because they saw someone they needed to report - a younger looking person- like 22.

    At the time of the murders the police appealed to public for help looking for a backpack- seems like at the time they might assume the clothes were in it.

    And backpack might still be found
    sometime. IMHO the pack is 25 feet off the trail or i25 somewhere in dense brush.

    But it seems they went with the older affect description for their suspect
    sketch - and hesitating to do that until July.

    Maybe police were split in directions to
    pursue.

    1.Older drifter
    2. Younger local

    MOO MOO
    of course.
     
  14. HockeyMom330

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    Not a healthcare worker, but just wondering if BG was possibly faking an injury or disability (aka Ted Bundy style) with his unstable gait as a ruse to get the girls to 'help' him. Abby & Libby have both been described as nurturing and the type that would help people less fortunate.
     
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    Is that true? Hadn’t heard that reported yet... interesting
     
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    But I wouldn't read too much into what BG was wearing, based on weather. I get cold easily and will wear layers if it is under 70. Others in my family will be out in short sleeves if it is sunny and in the 40s. It just depends on the individual.
     
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    he seems appropriately dressed for that temperature. i'm a native Minnesotan so my cold tolerance is very high and my heat tolerance very low, so at 45F i could be fine with just a thin long sleeved shirt haha. But what he was wearing seems normal for most people at 45 degrees.
     
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    Please don't actively sleuth civilians. If you think something is worthy of a tip, tell LE. Speculating here can get the thread locked down even if you don't specify names.
     
  19. Onaliv

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    Interesting to choose “abandoned” versus parked...
     
  20. StarryStarryNight

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    Just wondering....
    If back on February 17, 2017 the witness came in to report the something he had seen and had the sketch drawn up, but as LE talked to him further and looked at the sketch they said, “Oh, well you’re talking about ____ ____, he’s the (respected position in community) here. Thanks for coming in but everything’s fine. He’s certainly not the killer.”
    Fast forward to the last couple weeks and police become aware of new conclusive evidence pointing to the respected guy and they go scrambling to get this new sketch out. Would explain why police act betrayed and the families are upset.
    Also my thoughts are with the dramatic emotional PC yesterday, an arrest is coming soon. What LE is waiting on I don’t know, but if we are still here in June talking about this LE in Indiana will have lost all credibility and will become laughing stocks. You cannot put on a performance like that and not have results.
     
  21. SkipperKey3

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    The news people that were there tweeted it when it happened.
     
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