Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #90

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  1. JnRyan

    JnRyan Well-Known Member

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    So is this why ISP said, "we have just begun"? I'm confused as to why the other sketch is released and LE has everyone jumping down rabbit holes.
     
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  2. PeriwinkleE

    PeriwinkleE Active Member

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    People who don’t use the term “guys”, what do you say? — It’s an odd thing to fixate on, as far as the information new to us today. The alternative terms do sound more old fashioned in comparison and based on that, it makes sense when establishing an age range for the person who killed these girls.
     
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    Rallibella Well-Known Member

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    Agree ... unless it’s simply walking looking down with hands in pocket?
     
  4. Rallibella

    Rallibella Well-Known Member

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    Your number 1 is what I think as well. I think the first sketch was somehow based off the video and because the other sketch was someone known and who had reason to be there, it was discounted.
     
  5. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    No, I believe that is something LE is holding close to the vest.
     
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  6. Satchie

    Satchie Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's bizarre at all. Police had video footage of the killer from the victim's own phone, and they had a witness statement that clearly matched that video. That was very definitely what the perp looked like when he committed the crime.

    Police normally only release one sketch. It confuses the public if they release two sketches that look different. Just read on here, how much it has confused people. So they, quite rightly, released the sketch that was like the video..

    But now two years have passed and the crime remains unsolved. No one recognized BG from the video or sketch. So, time to rethink. What can they do to try to crack a case that's getting cold. They likely pored over the files with fresh eyes, developed a new strategy to focus on a suspect from Delphi, and release a different but compatible sketch.
     
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  7. bbbd4u

    bbbd4u Verified SAR/Emergency Management

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    According to this article they litterly sat in this new sketch for OVER 2 years!! Delphi murders: New sketch of killer, video from Libby's phone released

     
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  8. borndem

    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    Someone in the area knows this person. Probably known to several folks in the area. I feel certain that that is the situation here. Most of us must be thinking that, IMO.
    No knowledge makes me say this, but I feel sure that this is the case. He is (was) someone known to them -- an older brother of one of their friends. A friend of the family. A fellow church member. A teacher -- if he is old enuff. A softball coach or umpire. Down the street neighbor. Grocery or retail store employee. School crossing guard. A kid who mowed their lawns. Mail carrier. The son, husband or brother of someone important in that area and is/was reluctant to contact LE. Somebody knows that face and can put a name with it and who will contact LE about him. JMHO.
    Soon, let it be soon.
     
  9. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the feeling I got was that the perp wanted the investigation to go one direction, but now LE was going in another direction. Seems like something you'd say to someone who was somehow close to the investigation, not just standard statement that all perps hope the investigation will lead LE away from them.

    Who would be talking to LE about what direction an investigation should go? Clergy? Helpful volunteer? Fellow officer? Who?

    jmo
     
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  10. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    I think you’re right. Carter alleged that as well.

    “For more than two years, you never thought we would shift gears, but we have," he said. "We know this is about power to you, and you want to know what we know. And one day you will."...”
    Man suspected of murdering teen girls in 2017 has close community ties
     
  11. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    Yes, a brother/uncle/friend of a friend is a possibility. Someone who knew they were going to be there that day and when.

    jmo
     
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  12. Hobgoblinmarket

    Hobgoblinmarket Active Member

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    What was the no media to contact family for 2 weeks thing?
     
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  13. Evinrude

    Evinrude Well-Known Member

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    May e someone else has mentioned already but I’m 90% convinced perp has items in his right pocket by freezing the video.
    Not that if my thoughts were correct that it would help anything.
     
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  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain't The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I don’t think there was some outside influence here, rather, I think it was a natural course of events.

    They released an initial sketch, still photo, and audio, and exhausted all their leads there.

    The next step would be to re-examine the evidence, and release new information.

    Perhaps new evidence came to light that made this decision an easy one.

    Now they are narrowing their search closer to home, and fishing with a new composite.
     
  15. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    Or, possibly to Carter.

    He seemed very emotional, like he'd received a bad shock recently. I know Holeman said they had fast-tracked DNA before Christmas, but if I don't recall if we heard the results.

    Now, I'm wondering if they have results, and are finalizing their case against a suspect - someone whom they've already interviewed.

    From the link below:
    DNA evidence is top priority in Delphi murder investigation

    (Above article is dated Febuary 02, 2017).

    If anyone has updated info. on the DNA, please post it.

    Thanks.
     
  16. MuddyTires

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    I think you're way over thinking/analyzing it. "Guys" is commonly used by many to refer to 2 or more people regardless of gender.
     
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    Did I miss he’s “not Caucasian” somewhere?
     
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  18. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    Maybe LE is finalizing the case against the suspect?

    JMVHO.
     
  19. Satchie

    Satchie Well-Known Member

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    It's interesting how so many posters think, from the press conference, that they have someone specific in mind. Hopefully the perp got that impression as well.
     
  20. zencompass

    zencompass May today be the day. Justice for Abby and Libby.

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    Dear crhedBngr,

    They have kept all details to themselves, as you've stated.

    I have the greatest respect for every single person who had knowledge of how the girls were killed/found and never once spoke about it outside the law enforcement and medical circles.

    This gesture to provide dignity and respect to the young girls and their families by not divulging details is tremendous and greatly appreciated.
     
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