Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #90

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  1. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    They corrected the date later in the press conference.

    The car was there on the day the girls went missing.

    jmo
     
  2. darkstar105

    darkstar105 Active Member

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    OK sorry, thanks!
     
  3. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    'Night all! I hope someone is tossing and turning right now....
     
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    Satchie Well-Known Member

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    I have noticed that people have many words available (especially because we all watch TV and movies) and they instinctively choose to use different ones in different contexts. Abducting two people isn't the same as asking them if they want pizza.

    For example, it's interesting that on this forum we don't call Abby and Libby 'guys', but we do use the word to describe the perp.

    A police officer who is about to arrest you and your accomplice won't say "Guys, put your hands up." Someone might say to police "Guys, I'm innocent", but smarter ones will say "Officers".

    As the detective said, this crime was about power. The word 'guys' is used in an everyday context, because it avoids expressing power. When you want to express your power, or acknowledge someone else's, you don't normally use that word.
     
  5. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    It is very common to use 'you guys' even if referring to young females, and has been since the 70's as far as I know.
     
  6. JAX Area Chick

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    Agree. I don’t think they have a clue who it is to be honest.
     
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    Was the vehicle ever refered to by LE as specifically “a car”? I don’t recall it being called anything except a vehicle. So maybe a truck. Semi truck. A motorcycle. Church van. Tow truck. School bus. Ambulance. Golf cart. Something else?

    ETA the new video is just creepy as hell...​
     
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  8. Lewie

    Lewie Well-Known Member

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    I’m not sure if this has ever been discussed but could it be one of the girls’ teachers? That could make a lot of things make sense.
     
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  9. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    They may have DNA but are unsure as to how it plays into the crime or if it's even related to the crime (ie. they found a cigarette butt or soda can near the girls). Maybe it hasn't been matched to anyone yet. I've also considered the idea that they have a really good idea of who did it, but for whatever reason their alibi is a REALLY good one so they feel stuck.
     
  10. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    That crossed my mind as well. Maybe someone who attended church regularly, and was associated with the Delphi school system.
     
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    If they’re working with familial DNA—that can take a long time, with no guarantee of success. They need to work every angle they have.
     
  12. Daey34

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    A certain non MSM reporter? Someone who always hangs around, wants to know what they know. Someone who went missing right after the murders? A local to delphi, or someone who spends a lot of time there? Maybe someone who makes videos about the subject? He might be in the room...


     
  13. Ursamajr

    Ursamajr haunter of the woods

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    possibly way too out there thoughts:

    LE have an idea of who BG is.
    They still need conformation or that missing puzzle piece.

    The "witness" may have gone to LE themselves.
    The "witness" may have been approached by LE first.
    Working in conjunction with LE, they provide LE with something no one else would know or are asked to provide something, like:
    "He just told me he read/saw The Shack"
    What if it were a family member who is the "witness"?
    "We watched it together right after Feb 13th" or "we just watched it last night"
    Maybe they were only told about this "new direction" (new approach?) right before the presser.
    Maybe they were only asked to help persue or frighten BG with this "new direction" minutes before the presser.
    Anyway, why were they only filled in this morning and so close to the presser?
    Why did they leave abruptly and so visibly distraught? For effect? Just to send a message? For protection?
    Was BG in the room?
    What if they only gave that info right before they left?

    So many hints.
    So many questions.

    MOO.
     
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    Who is 'BG' that I keep seeing referred to?
     
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    Tssiemer Well-Known Member

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    Bridge guy
     
  16. Ursamajr

    Ursamajr haunter of the woods

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    Bridge Guy.
     
  17. wary

    wary Well-Known Member

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    BG is “Bridge Guy”—from the video that one of the murdered girls took—of him following them across the bridge.
     
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    Andreee Well-Known Member

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    Ah, thank you!
     
  19. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    True, but I now question if they have DNA in the first place.

    If they do, I fear it’s of low quality; enough to exclude, but not much good for anything else.

    I was hopeful of a Parabon “Snapshot” today, a detailed description of this guy’s physical appearance.

    The turnaround time for that seems to be fairly quick, and it is generally followed by genealogical research, which as you say, can take a long time.

    The lack of the first, makes me question the viability of the second.

    Strongly.
     
  20. wary

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    Very good point. Also—I’ve worried that whatever DNA they have comes from a source that isn’t necessarily connected with the crime. So—are they going to do a Parabon Snapshot, to track down someone who smoked a cigarette or chewed a wad of gum in the park, the day before the murders?
     
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