Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #91

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  1. dub

    dub Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you on all of this, I've always felt like he works as an electrician, plumber, roofer, something like that. Occasionally in Delphi but mostly in the surrounding area. A roofer in particular would be comfortable up on those tracks.
     
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    Peppery Well-Known Member

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    Walking with hands in pockets naturally reduces balance. Even just swinging them gently allows the body to easily correct tiny imbalances without realizing it. Try it, anytime we walk on uneven surfaces the first thing we do is use our arms. Imo he was EXTREMELY comfortable on that bridge.
     
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    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    It might affect his daily (normal to those around him) routine to a noticeable degree maybe?
     
  4. jewelsmac

    jewelsmac No one really knows why anyone does anything

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    I have not been following this case before now, so excuse my ignorance… But why in the world would it take over two years for this video and audio to be put out to the public who may have recognize this person?
     
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    What is it for those of isn’t who aren’t in the correct country to view? Thanks
     
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    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    I agree, it could backfire, if the intent to shame is true.
    Just seems like typical cop talk to me. We know....somyou msybas well come on in. But, they don’t know, or there’d be a name or an arrest. Jmo
     
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    I can’t view it from my region (uk)
     
  8. JaneEyre

    JaneEyre Well-Known Member

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    Somebody did actually suggest he was talking through a voice contraption. I’m not making fun of it - just pointing it out.
     
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    Been reading this morning on Profiles of Murderers
    interesting tidbits-
    first time murderers tend to kill close to home;
    Murderers are profoundly damaged psychologically and are driven
    by devastating histories of trauma- abuse, domestic violence and
    by other perils of childhood.
    The scene of crime can give much info on type of killer-
    was he an "Organized" killer, scene left reasonably orderly- these
    tend to be higher educated, more intelligent. Pre-planned crime. Brought needed tools w/ him. Much forethought.


    "Disorganized killer leaves chaos and disorder at scene- more
    impulsive crime, less planning, used tools available at scene,
    lower educated, blue collar or semi-skilled job.

    How were victim's bodies left? Sometimes positioning of victims
    can lead to motive or give hints about perp. Hands in praying
    position can indicate religious affiliation. (was this why Carter
    had so much religious talk during pc?)

    Motive- were victims sexually assaulted? Were they beaten or
    bodies mutilated? POWER was mentioned. Was this a generic
    comment or related to method of killing?

    I'll be back with more. wish we could get an FBI profile.
     
  10. CSIDreamer

    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    What are you trying to view?
     
  11. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    He might be the type to react, to boast, or maybe taunt. Or, if he suddenly goes quiet when previously was interested in the case, that would be telling to. It was a deliberate tactic by LE...there must be a reason for it. Jmo.
     
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  12. TL4S

    TL4S Dumbified Clown

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    So looking at the map, I think BG parked in the abandoned lot so his car wasn't as visible from the side road, or what I'm assuming is trailhead parking close by. From there he walks on the small trail that leads to the main Monon High Bridge Trail entrance, then heads towards the bridge. Does that sound correct?

    Afterwards, he either took a shortcut through the woods to the road and walked the road back, or simply backtracked on the trail.

    Questions:
    1) Do we know where each witness saw him?
    2) Has the man with a backpack walking on the road been discounted as false?
     
  13. RedBeard

    RedBeard Villains beware.

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    They weren't shaming him, they were speaking to his conscious. It's like how you talk to a kid, you avoid encouraging behavior while letting them know the issue. They want him dwell on the aspects that make him anxious, not the ones that feed his ego. He never outright called the guy a monster, he just let the perp know he is in his head, he is closer to him then he has ever been. He wan't the perp to slip up like acting weird at work, looking out his windows; any little change.
     
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    Does someone have the transcript of the PC handy?
     
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    It's an article about a young man being arrested for murder who left his victim in a shack. Two others were arrested and LE is still looking for one more person.

    ETA appears there were 5 people involved in murder.
     
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  16. RedBeard

    RedBeard Villains beware.

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    If you look at the satellite pictures the woods around that road are so dense that you unless you drive up to a car on that road you aren't going to see it from the main road.
     
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    Do not do this. Please redact your link.
     
  18. MistyWaters

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    Another possibility, does the age of various different witnesses also impact the age they’d guess a stranger might be? I think it definitely might. For example when I was a teenager I recall thinking certain adults were at least 20 years or more years older than me, only to later learn the age gap wasn’t nearly as great. Many decades later someone I think is in their 20s might indeed be 40. I think only people who’ve made it a study of guessing ages would make good witnesses when it comes to portraying an actual age through a police sketch.
     
  19. dub

    dub Well-Known Member

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    Page 1 of this thread, post 9.
     
  20. CSIDreamer

    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    Anxiety can be pretty obvious, though. I can't decide if we are agreeing, disagreeing, or mulling it over. :) But, good points!
     
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