Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #92

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  1. wary

    wary Well-Known Member

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    Wait a minute. You’re saying this as though it’s a fact. But it’s just your opinion, right?
     
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  2. TeaTime

    TeaTime Well-Known Member

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    LE can lie to the public about the source of their information. The first witness was the video.

    It's my opinion. Why? Because no one saw someone who really looked like the video BG - that guy didn't exist. BG was always guy #2. No one could see someone who looks 25 and think he is 50 and guy #1 looks 50 in the sketch.

    I am sticking with sketch done by artist from video is the first sketch.
     
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  3. moonlessnight

    moonlessnight Well-Known Member

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    If those banners aren't usually there it makes me think the likelihood that the suspect is a religious figure, and that the banner may be from his own church, is much higher.

    ETA - and people in the community would recognize that banner if they go to the same church. It would be an obvious tip off.

     
  4. Tazzie

    Tazzie New Member

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    Hi All,

    First time poster (long time lurker) from Australia.

    IMO, BG will be a male in his 20’s who is actively involved in hunting. This crime is an extension of his hunting engagement and his attempt to obtain a greater “high” by progressing to hunting humans.

    He is wearing a disguise in the footage from Libby’s phone, in the way a hunter wears camouflage.

    I don’t believe he knew the girls would be there that day, he had most likely been watching people for some time at that location for a victim/s to hunt.

    All MOO.
     
  5. Angelcat13

    Angelcat13 Well-Known Member

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    When you take a test people often say you should go with your first guess if you don't know the answer. That being said, does anyone here know WHY the police searched the house on Bicycle Bridge Rd so early in the investigation?
     
  6. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    By all accounts, both drawings were done in 2017, and are based on the the account of 2 different eyewitnesses.

    The relevant drawing made public on Monday is not an age progression of the suspect, and it's also not an update of the artist's 2/17/17 drawing. It's his same (now 26 month old) never before seen drawing.

    Are you proposing the eyewitness told the artist "this is what I think the man I saw today will look like 5 years from now" (or what I think he looked like 5 years earlier)? That makes no sense to me. I disagree that the two artist sketches are drawing of the suspect at different ages.

    Clearly, the latest message by LE to essentially disregard the drawing published 2 years ago, was not the message Police Supt Carter gave at the presser when he told the public to consider the first sketch a secondary resource, use the newly unveiled sketch as the primary image of the suspect they are seeking.

    Mistake or not, I certainly don't fault LE for telling the public to disregard the first sketch -- especially if their investigation changed direction.

    Hopeful the new direction will lead to an arrest, and justice for these two girls Libby and Abbey and their families.

    MOO
     
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  7. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Wow, that's really helpful! So from the abandoned building to the bridge is about 20 minutes on foot?
    A witness saw a vehicle parked there on the 13th around 11:30 am. I wonder if it's the same vehicle LE is interested in. Jmo

    Oops I thought I was replying to the post you quoted. (I think it's time for bed.)
     
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  8. RedBeard

    RedBeard Villains beware.

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    My newest enhancements:
     
  9. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Even if it was, I don’t think it matters anymore.
     
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    Hey Tazzie! Fellow Aussie here...

    I agree with your feelings. I suspect he'd cased the area for an opportunity and pounced when he saw the girls.
     
  11. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    oh boy I just saw this
    thanks for that clarification
    I've never been more confused lol
     
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  12. LaborDayRN

    LaborDayRN Well-Known Member

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    So well said my friend! My heart aches for the family and LE in this case.
     
  13. Blueberry2720

    Blueberry2720 Today would be a fine day for an arrest.

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    Geo caching is not allowed to be discussed here. Continuing to do so will get the thread shut down, time outs for posters discussing, etc. Clearly people aren't reading or even skimming posts - or - they are just ignoring the numerous warnings posted several times already tonight. Breaking the rules hurts all of us.
     
  14. sleuthermelb

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    This is great stuff; thank you so much for your work and for sharing these. This latest enhancement in particular is far better than the raw footage.
     
  15. NickoD

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    Finally catching up, I wanted to try to answer a couple of questions that I saw some WS’ers asked but did not get a response:

    - Are PC’s practiced and coordinated? Practiced perhaps (and hopefully) but coordinated absolutely. There is a pretty strict protocol for PC’s and nobody who is not meant to speak says anything. If a reporter approaches random LEO then the officer politely tells the reporter to use the PC kit or speak with the PR representative of the department. No one else is to make any comments to the press. PR officers are also given additional training. In short, nothing is left to chance at a press conference.

    - Is there some test that takes 2 weeks to get results back? If I had to guess one test, that’s the normal time fingerprints for background checks tend to take although depending on location and technology that time is also being significantly reduced. DNA usually takes months unless you’re working some high profile case (while we are all really into this case, who knows what else is happening in Indiana). Tox reports also take a month or two usually.

    I am forgetting now who asked the questions (one was all the way back on #91) but hopefully that helps.
     
  16. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure the first sketch was based on a description by a witness, but they may have also used the video.
    I can't imagine they would rely on just the video, it's so unclear. Imo
     
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    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Just my opinion, the simplest route to unconfusion is to try erase the first sketch from existence and only focus on the new information. :)
     
  18. Howcanppldosuch

    Howcanppldosuch Well-Known Member

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    I don’t understand. Geo caching is a sport, it is like discussing soccer
     
  19. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    “Police did not give a description of the vehicle.”

    That’s helpful.
     
  20. StarryStarryNight

    StarryStarryNight Well-Known Member

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    On Monday I was 100% sure we would see an arrest within the two weeks LE talked about.
    On Tuesday I was 87% sure we would see that arrest in that time frame.
    Tonight, I think there is a 3% chance we see anything that even looks like progress.
    I still believe all this is taking place because police dismissed someone as a suspect early on that they realize now is the killer and they dismissed him only because he was known in the community. Now they have to go back and build a case from scratch that is two years old.
    I’ve certainly been wrong before and I sure hope I’m wrong this time.
     
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