Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #93

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  1. JaneEyre

    JaneEyre Well-Known Member

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    Much has been made of her bravery, but yes, the word “smart” comes to mind just as strongly. Now imagine if Libby had emergency alerts set up on her phone and could have set it off while it was in her pocket the moment she realized this wasn’t just creepy, but extremely dangerous. If she had, she could have clicked the power button 3 times and had SOS texts with audio, video, and map location sent out immediately to multiple people. The perp would not have even known, as it does it silently.

    By the way, anyone who has this set up should have a code or safe word in place with those contacts. I accidentally set mine off last week and two of my three SOS contacts immediately tried to reach me. When I texted one back saying it was an accident, he was smart enough to ask me a trick question that would tell him if it was me and not someone else who had grabbed my phone. I then set up code questions/words with the others that only we would know the answers to.
     
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    A friend of mine in another state set hers off by mistake, too. She had to make some quick phone calls!
     
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    Yeah you couldn’t pay me a million $ to walk across that bridge. I wouldn’t even crawl across it. I’m scared of heights. lol. I watched one video where 3 people were walking it and one guys movements almost made me sick because he seems so close to the edge at times.
     
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  4. GA_Peach

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    I do not actually believe that this must be the case, although it may be. Many times after an arrest is made, LE will say, "Now the real work begins." LE may be just beginning because they are now starting to connect all of the dots for the the "new" suspect. They may be sifting through their mounds of evidence to figure out what relates to the man in the new sketch. It does not mean that LE has no clue or that they are back to the drawing board. I cannot for the life of me imagine that LE is now dealing with a blank slate. There is absolutely no way that LE would take such a drastic turn in the case, risk all of their credibility, and make such bold statements on national television if they did not have a solid piece of evidence to support their claims. Remember identifying a suspect and making an arrest are two of the first steps. It is a long road from there to a conviction at trial!
     
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    Thank you for confirming this. I’m sorry for any confusion caused I just wanted to ensure the tips get there ok.
     
  6. CrimeDawg123

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    I hope so @GA_Peach. I am going to go with your positivity. Thanks for lifting me up :)
     
  7. Mercedes

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    Perhaps he has no hair, and is wearing a wig.
     
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    You are a good man, gregrichards. IMO.
     
  9. distracted

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    Even though I'm a fairly regular poster and I knew bits and pieces about this case, I am fairly new to the details. I haven't followed it closely for two years so I'm coming at it with fairly fresh eyes but I agree with you - the power of suggestion is strong. That said, to me, the first sketch fits the figure better but I also see a younger, shaven face. I also see a baseball cap, not a hoodie.

    Also, as a court stenographer, I have listened to hours and hours of taped audio during my professional career and I hear "Go down the hill". I do not hear the word "guys".

    What I'm most surprised about, though, is the graininess of the video and/or photo image. Even an older phone would take good video and photos. Maybe I've watched too much Criminal Minds and Dateline, but I'm surprised they aren't able to provide a sharper image, especially since they have the original.
     
  10. flashy09

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    Yes.....I feel totally sure they know exactly who it is. I think many people in Delphi do as well. They don’t have enough to convict and they need something more...which I think they will get. But in the meantime they are appealing to relatives (especially), friends and the suspect himself to turn himself in. In my opinion he is involved in society and this sketch is going to really incriminate him and make socializing awkward. I hope he does come forward.
     
  11. Grace11

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    I suspect they were his first victims I think some of the thrill was planning, thinking, dreaming through the kill. I don’t think he’s attacked since. Some don’t. Some find that the fantasy is better than the actual crime.

    Ex: The killings of Michella Welch and Jenni Bastian in Washington. It is believed both suspects did not kill again.
     
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    dbm - repeat post
     
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    First time poster from Canada. Thought i would direct you folks to a fantastic podcast i just listened to that was released 6 hours ago. The podcast is called Best Case, Worst Case. It is hosted by 3 former FBI agents and a former District Attorney. Fantastic insight on why certain items are released to public, etc...
     
  14. Grace11

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    repeat post - stupid WiFi
     
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    BBM....I prayed for this the moment my eyes opened this morning. May today be the day.
     
  16. heartgoesout

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    Off topic but is there an app for this?
     
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    I dont know. We have two completely different sketches and a between 18 and 40 description. I feel they are completely lost and have no idea where to turn other than the media in hope somebody remembers something from 2 years ago.
     
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    Thank you! Gonna listen to that now while I get ready for the day.
     
  20. teeandcee

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    Very interesting. At least it’s a definite no. BG’s other pant leg has the same appearance at points, so I’m beginning to think it’s just the way his jeans move. But I’m still intrigued since I’ve been wrong many, many times!
     
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    JMO - This video really shows how LE has been very emotional throughout this entire case. Not just Doug Carter and not just this week because of the sketchy sketch situation. From the beginning, those speaking have become very emotional and fighting to get their words out with breaking down. This is way beyond "normal" angry LE that we are more used to seeing. Something very bad and twisted went on in those woods seemingly way beyond "just" the murder of two young girls. They are all so stricken and horrified and that is scary as hell to see.
     
  22. TTF14

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    HGO, just Google. There are multiple ways to listen. If you have an iPhone, the podcast app is usually built in. That's how I listen to my podcasts. But you can also listen directly from a website.
     
  23. Suglo

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    I would have my hands in my pockets to stop from flailing around if I lost my footing. I have a fear of bridges. I probably couldn’t walk on that thing but whenever I walk on regular bridges, I always have my hands in my pockets. Sort of like holding myself to stay upright, if that makes any sense.
     
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