Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #99

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  1. kc1023

    kc1023 Well-Known Member

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    Appreciate your reply. I'll add that men that are of the "reddish-brown" hair color, tend to have redder facial hair and leg hair and ... other private hair ... which makes it much more noticeable in someone that may appear to have plain brown hair on first glance. You think they are a brunette and then they sprout a ginger beard (no offense gingers!). Head hair darkens as they age possibly but I still say "reddish-brown" hair is very common overall and also a fairly loose descriptor covering a lot of hair colors.
     
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  2. susiQ

    susiQ Well-Known Member

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    Good thought! The PC certainly gave us lots of grist for our mill :)
     
  3. chaz

    chaz Well-Known Member

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    Could one of these types have provided the first released sketch, without a name, hoping someone would name him in sm?
     
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    Could police have matched DNA, likely to be BG's, from the murder site with DNA found at a more recent crime that took place in the immediate area? I'm not sure how likely it would be for police to run such a test. But, maybe if the more recent crime fit the FBI profile for the sort of activity BG would engage in; maybe they'd take a chance and go ahead and compare the 2 DNA results. Jmo.
     
  5. SilentRogue

    SilentRogue On Time Out

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    What about the press conference gave the impression they following or otherwise getting close to the assailant?
     
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  6. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Law enforcement frequently enters unknown suspect DNA, into the CODIS system.

    Even if that DNA doesn’t generate a match to a specific individual, it helps to link crimes to a common perpetrator.

    Personally, I don’t think they’ve linked this guy to other crimes.
     
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  7. Charlot123

    Charlot123 Well-Known Member

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    Surely tell your wife she is lucky!

    I was thinking about the discrepancy in the witnesses' account of the perp's eye color; it was discussed in previous threads. Why someone would say "definitely not blue" and later correct himself. I suddenly realized that "green eyes" should look very different in different lights. Also, the possible rare situation when the perp might IRL have blue eyes but Parabon would "read" his DNA code as "brown".
     
  8. pepper 34

    pepper 34 Well-Known Member

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    He would catch my attention because his jacket is not a quarter or half or fully buttoned up. He buttoned up one opening at the bottom and skipped some openings and buttoned another higher up... why? Put the jacket on in a hurry and knows he's soon going to take it off again anyway? It looks uncomfortable and, with the extra junk he appears to be toting inside the jacket, I would wonder what was going on with him.

    I still believe he has a brown hoodie on under the jacket so the jacket, imo, was a hurried addition to his "costume" in order to approach with tools he needed hidden from the girls. That's why, imo, there's something white sticking out of the top of the jacket... too much of a hurry to put the jacket on and catch up to the girls. And, he might have reasoned, if anyone saw him they'd tell LE he was wearing a blue jacket... not a brown hoodie. He could have had the jacket hidden in the woods near the beginning of the bridge... all packed up and ready to go. People might see him begin crossing the bridge, but they'd only see his back and he'd be wearing a blue jacket so they probably wouldn't connect him with the man they'd seen earlier wearing a brown hoodie. (And, when he was wearing the brown hoodie, it seems likely that quite a few would have seen his face.) However, probably very few remember the face of the guy wearing the blue jacket.
    This could even account for there being 2 sketches. All jmo.
     
  9. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    We certainly are now hearing of arrests from cold cases due to DNA matches: the more, the better.
    Let these creeps have nightmares, waiting for their arrests being just round the corner.:D:D
    MOO.
     
  10. cluciano63

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    Connection could be “none” or “unknown” or “was in Delphi that day.”
     
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    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Nothing.
    And they would never show a sketch if they know who the person is. Puts other people at risk who may resemble the sketch. Jmo
     
  12. Charlot123

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    Have you ever noticed that a brunet who sprouts a ginger beard is not uncommon, but the opposite - a ginger-haired man with a dark beard almost never happens? Also, a brunet with ginger beard (and other bodily hair) would often have the skin of a redhead, the one that easily burns in the sun or has freckles.
     
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    Yea I agree. I don't know if Indiana has iron in the water but here in WI we do. My hair always has an orange/rust tint to it where as if I wash it in water with less iron its more ash blond.
     
  14. tmar

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    Welcome here Uniquecurlygirly.:):):)
    Besides reading, I hope you'll continue posting.
    Two creeps are being discussed, and hoping because of stress, blaming one another, they have a blue, and turn on one another, prattling to others.
    MOO.
     
  15. susiQ

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    This is driving me batty. Not hard to do :)

    So, we have a sketch that was done about 5 months post murders that was released in July 2017? That sketch is a dead ringer (imo) of an individual listed on the sex offender registry who naturally would have had to provide DNA to police. Problem, obviously his DNA did not match that of the crime scene or he'd be locked up by now. I'd love to know who provided that description to police which resulted in the sketch. Did that individual have an agenda? The odd thing is, he does somewhat resemble they guy on the bridge. But what does that mean? I can't make out a face clearly. He is looking down as to conceal his identity as he approaches. It could be my brother who kinda looks like that and has a bit of a gait because he broke both of his ankles years ago.

    So this previous POI sex offender must have been ruled out. That could have been done a LONG time ago and yet only now has the investigation taken a sharp turn. We are left with the first sketch that was made 3 days after the murders which in all likelihood is the real killer, as we have been told. You know, people can change quite a bit in 2 years. I've seen it. MPB (male pattern baldness, I figured I'd just spell it out :)), change of hairstyle (if he still has any) weight gain, weight loss, facial hair comes and goes and clothing style may change (did a makeover). How convenient for the killer. Two plus years to think about that while LE are looking for someone from goodness knows where. I strongly suspect DNA will clinch this if they have enough, but I also think there may have been someone that purposefully misguided this investigation from the onset. Gut feeling. I wonder if we'll ever know for sure? I do think though that they have someone in mind and there are eyes all over him right now. Good luck with that Coward of Carrol County.
    As always, MOO.
     
  16. k-mac

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    its pretty common. these odd combo's.
    my son has ash blonde hair.....with a ginger beard!!!! haha

    so hard because a quick shave or grow a beard can totally change a mans appearance.
    I.E my son might have been recognised as having a ginger beard....all he needs to do is go home have a shave and NOONE would suspect him of being able to grow a red beard with his colouring:confused:

    moo
     
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    susiQ Well-Known Member

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    Or lives in Delphi, grew up in Delphi (but no longer lives there) and has friends or relatives in Delphi.
     
  18. Ms.Leah

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    I think this one was pretty good. It came from a press conference today on a 47 yr old cold case. Unfortunately he is deceased and won’t face charges.
     

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    It would give a tremendous amount of power knowing they put out the wrong sketch, so may find it funny to him that he outsmarted everyone. Power and control. He created fear in an entire town.
     
  20. susiQ

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    That one is REALLY good.
     
  21. MJPeony

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    I asked a few threads back but I don't think I got an answer- apologies if I did, and just point me in the right direction if so.

    Could someone provide me an MSM link verifying that the girls specifically discussed "some creepy guy" earlier on during their walk that day on the trails? That quote has been put forth as fact many times, but I've just never seen anything to confirm this. TIA.
     
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