Found Deceased IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 - #31

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  1. KayElJay

    KayElJay Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Dear Websleuths Members,

    Please DO NOT bring in family members of the victim's and suggest they might have had something to do with the crime. As of right now, there is ZERO evidence to suggest this is the case.

    People, please think about what Abby and Liberty's loved ones are going through right now.

    They lost their two angels to murder and now they read on the Internet people are ripping their lives apart.

    Same thing with any random person you happen to bring up. These people do not deserve to have their lives spread out and accusations made against them based on a theory with nothing to back it up.

    I know it's frustrating when you go on other sites and they are talking about EVERYTHING but we just do not work that way on Websleuths.

    You are anonymous behind your computer screen. Doesn't hurt you if you post something that's not true about a grieving family member. You step away from your computer and all is well. Meanwhile, your words are like burning hot knives in people's hearts.

    Please take a moment to read our rules
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/misc.php?do=showrules

    If you have any questions please email websleuthscomments@gmail.com or send a private message.

    Ask yourself the following; Would you stand face to face with the person you are accusing, tell them your theory and tell them your real name?

    Even with our tight and well thought out rules Websleuths is able to do amazing sleuthing.

    Thank you for caring about Abby and Liberty.

    Tricia Griffith
    Owner/Websleuths.com

    PS. Thank you KayElJay for letting me post in your opening post.







    MISSING: Two 13-year-old girls dropped off to go walking at Carroll County trai
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    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    Two bodies found along a northern Indiana stream are those of two teenage girls who went missing Mondayand their deaths are being investigated as homicides, authorities said on Wednesday.

    State Police Sgt. Kim Riley said autopsies performed Wednesday determined that the bodies are those of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, both of Delphi.

    Their bodies were found Tuesday afternoon along Deer Creek near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Police said the girls’ bodies were about three-quarters of a mile from an abandoned railroad bridge where they were dropped off Monday to go hiking.

    ISP page dedicated to the investigation (includes audio of suspect)

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  3. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County SheriffÂ’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
    Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

    Audio loop http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

    SGT. KIM RILEY, INDIANA STATE POLICE (via telephone) with CNN re: three posts in the image on the bridge

    RILEY: We have looked at it. We`ve blown it up. As a matter of fact, that was done right after we got the picture -- we had access to the picture. And if you look at the far end of the tracks, it looks like there`s two people actually standing there. But if you blow the picture up, you`ll notice that there`s actually three poles there to keep cars from being -- trying to drive across the bridge. So that`s the marks that you see at the end of the tracks.

    Teen used cell phone to capture chilling audio of her killer: Police
     
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    ADMIN NOTE: Do NOT post photos of random individuals in a side by side fashion to compare with unidentified suspect. You may be sleuthing someone ten ways to Sunday but do NOT post about it here. Until there is a named suspect to sleuth it is against TOS.

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    Please continue discussing while being mindful of the rules which can always be found linked in my signature.
     
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    ADMIN NOTE: Because so many members were brand new, we, the owner and staff, have been very patient with you. We thought you deserved some time to learn the ropes. Well, you've had almost two weeks to figure out how we roll here. If you haven't bothered to read the Rules, especially Etiquette and Information, then shame on ya.

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  6. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Everyone,

    In case you haven't seen the videos made by our member "grayhuze" here they are all in one place.

    I would highly recommend you watch these videos if you haven't already.

    You get the full sense of how it must have been for Abby and Libby in addition to helping you understand the crime scene.

    Video # 1 [video=youtube;_TFz4citG68]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TFz4citG68&index=2&list=PLm8YOVMTz18HSfgvOn7eBtCVaCghbLHws[/video]

    Video # 2 - [video=youtube;AS24hYv_X8Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS24hYv_X8Q&list=PLm8YOVMTz18HSfgvOn7eBtCVaCghbLHws&index=1[/video]

    Video # 3 [video=youtube;HH3twaMV9Fg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH3twaMV9Fg&index=3&list=PLm8YOVMTz18HSfgvOn7eBtCVaCghbLHws[/video]


    Thank you grayhuze for taking the time to help Abby and Libby.

    Tricia Griffith
    Owner/Websleuths.com
     
  7. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    As of Today's date there are no NAMED POIs or suspects. There is a suspect who is unidentified and is the subject in the images taken from Liberty German's phone.

    That unidentified male is being referred to here as BG (bridge guy).

    T
     
  8. Steleheart

    Steleheart WS Liason Staff Member WS Liason

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    Logan’s attorney, Andrew Achey, said in a statement, “Mr. Logan had no involvement in this heinous crime.”

    "I would like to caution the public to avoid jumping to conclusions before law enforcement has completed the ongoing investigation," Achey added. "Not only does Mr. Logan maintain his innocence but he also encourages anyone with information to call the tip line."

    From your link.
     
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    Rich Van Wyk‏ @VanwykWTHR 3m3 minutes ago
    (RL)'s attorney "Mr. (L) had no involvement in this heinous crime." As police search his home investigating murder of #delphi girls
     
  13. Steleheart

    Steleheart WS Liason Staff Member WS Liason

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    I doubt we are going to see a result this weekend. It was stated in one tweet that they will likely be on the scene late tonight.

    2nd time LE decided to take action on a Friday.
     
  14. Elley Mae

    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    I guess since LE said they would be there all night nothing will be said till their done. Jmo
     
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    Spellbound Double, double toil and trouble

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    Reminder of what Teicia told us regarding posting sbout the latest search:

    some of the articles and twitter places to follow:

    http://www.jconline.com/story/news/...h-property-where-delphi-teens-found/99304450/


    http://wishtv.com/2017/03/17/search-underway-of-home-property-of-man-where-delphi-teens-were-found/


    http://www.wthr.com/article/police-searching-home-property-of-man-where-delphi-teens-were-found


    TWITTER LINKS
    https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexisMcAdamsTV
    https://mobile.twitter.com/EmilyWTHR
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Jordan_RTV6
    https://mobile.twitter.com/VanwykWTHR
    https://mobile.twitter.com/WISH_TV


    https://www.facebook.com/Fox59News/?ref=page_internal


    https://www.facebook.com/Fox59News/#_=_


    Inside Edition with video (@1.23 Logan says the words "down the hill" at reporter's request): http://www.theindychannel.com/news/...erty-where-delphi-teens-abby-libby-found-dead
     
  16. teeandcee

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    IMO it's possible RL hired a day laborer for some help around his farm. So, the SK theory is still possible here at my house.
     
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    Just thought about this, rl said in interview that the terrain was rough and " someone must have been with them" he didn't say someon must have carried them. He meant that someone led them to that area. Someone who knows the easy way down moo
     
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    I've just come back to WS to check on things. Haven't been here since yesterday late afternoon. Just skimmed over the the last few pages of Thread #30.

    Besides the new report that there has been a search warrant issued for the entirety of RL's property, has there been any other significant development since yesterday??

    My opinion on this new search warrant: not sure it really implicates RL as a suspect. I mean, how stupid would a murderer have to be to leave the bodies on his own property? Holy cow. But we don't know all the details and circumstances that resulted in the deaths, so who knows.
     
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    Can anyone find a local high school yearbook from the early
    nineties?
     
  20. JnRyan

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    I've missed over 2 threads and now come in to find this being discussed:
    http://cbs4indy.com/2017/03/17/auth...me-in-connection-with-murder-of-delphi-teens/

    Over 13K tips, over a month of investigating with a massive LE group, an audio and 2 photos released and thousands of billboards across the country and we are back to the property where the girls were found? On top of that LE has a search warrant, searches the property and hauls off what is apparently the truck that belongs to the property owner. And then LE states that the property owner is not a suspect? This is bizarre. There has to be a lot under the surface of this case that LE has and we know nothing about.
     
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