Found Deceased IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 - #31

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  1. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Kindness Matters

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    Today while shopping I happened to notice a man wearing a nasal cannula with coiled, thin tubing going to a very small oxygen canister which was in a holster- type canvas carrier that went over his shoulder and held the canister at the middle to left part of his chest .

    At the beginning of one of the very early threads , if I remember correctly, RL has COPD. He may be someone who doesn't carry his oxygen at all times, but when he does, out walking, maybe he wears the carrier/holster under his jacket with the tubing and nasal cannula either at his nose, or pushed down into his jacket in- case he may need it. So, IF he were BG, maybe the white *whatever* at his neckline (seen in 2 of the only pics of BG)could be the cannula and tubing? Maybe the bulge under BG's jacket could be the "tiny" oxygen canister and straps to carry it?

    And, RL has horses. If RL or someone else were unable to carry the girls back to where they were found, possibly they used a horse. Fairly quiet mode of travel with horses in the woods. In one of the earlier threads there was a photo of some of the steep parts of the path/Ravine kinda "churned" up . Maybe from a horse?

    Possibly RL drives to the cemetery, parks his white truck, walks the bridge to check out his property from a different angle than his house? Maybe just for exercise?

    I know there are a lot of maybes up in this post. I regret that my computer is not cooperating enough to go back to earlier posts and link post numbers.

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  2. Angelcat13

    Angelcat13 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure that the "he" noted in the statement by LE refers to RL. I am thinking it may refer to a relative or associate of RL that may have left some evidence at RL's property.
     
  3. jillycat

    jillycat Well-Known Member

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    Then there were an awful lot of wasted discussions on that. Her phone was also "pinging" in different locations around town, after the crime it seems, if we take that information literally. I don't know how LE could find the phone on her body it was traveling.

    It seems there are some information "collisions".
     
  4. Not a Belle

    Not a Belle Well-Known Member

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    I don't see anything unusual in RL's clothing; I live in a rural area in the deep south, and the red shirt outfit would be considered dressy by many people here, particularly men. It doesn't seem (to me) to be an attempt to hide his identity. There are things I wear if I know I'm going to only be at home, and I would hate for someone to see those and assume that that's my style of dress every day, or for someone to be suspicious if they saw me in something different (what I wear to work, for example).

    That said, I don't see any resemblance between RL and BG, and I don't hear similarity in their voices. JMO of course.
     
  5. lelandrob

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    So very true. Thank you.
     
  6. Blsdjs

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    O/T (kind of)...Curiosity got the best of me and for the first time in 5 weeks I decided to look through groups on FB regarding this case...All I can say is I have even more respect for WS!! Some of the posters on SM are just not the brightest colors in the crayon box! I feel my own intelligence was affected by my brief outing into the land of "let's accuse anyone that breathes"! Thank you fellow WSers and thank you Mods. You all ROCK! That is all, carry on!!

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  7. prblythe

    prblythe Well-Known Member

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    trying to ketchup,,,I just don't see a 77 yr old man traversing a bridge like this. JMO is it not BG, but I am thinking like a few others, there may be something he knows or suspects and other charges to bring him in to keep him would allows then a chance to get him to chirp. Do you suppose the other county has a better system for extracting information?
     
  8. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    Agree with all you posted but I still have to remember that young criminals all grow old eventually and look like someone's grandparent.
     
  9. chocolope

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    Link? I have not seen this ever confirmed by LE and it's a very important clue.
     
  10. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Steleheart Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    It simply never mentioned "on her body" I don't see that anywhere.

    But what I have seen is " it was pinging around town" Grandfather
    "phones can ping from different towers without moving" A poster here.
    " Le said "if you saw someone throw out a backpack we want to know"

    So the phone could have been found in the creek, in the woods, in town, etc. But they took the video off of her phone they said. LE never mentioned "on her body".
     
  12. Blsdjs

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    I am wondering if, perhaps, all of these developments with RL the last 2 weeks could possibly be a "smoke screen" by LE? If the attention is on RL (assuming he is innocent), I bet BG feels pretty secure right about now. Maybe he will slip up, make a mistake, say something incriminating to bring about that "one tip". Just a theory, MOO JMO.....

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  13. cubbeegirl

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    jillycat Well-Known Member

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    I thought they didn't perceive these girls as missing at that time, or in danger? That's what I'm saying - this was known by family right away and I'm wondering if one's person's use of the word 'ping' is really about some other location or activity tracking device that family had available to them, and it may not have been accurate as far as them being in town.

    There was a relatively recent court case on the need for warrants...the exceptions have to do with imminent circumstances. In this case, the police were not initially concerned that they were in harm's way. So I doubt that they got those records, rather, it seems to have come from family who may or may not have had accurate location feedback.
     
  16. ocgrad

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    Maybe the crime has separate elements, abduction culminating in murder.
     
  17. whiskers

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    Do we know if LE has cleared all of those friends to the family and those close to Abby and Libby? Family and otherwise.
     
  18. jillycat

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    Exactly. But that's the language that was used in the post I responded to.
     
  19. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native

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    I totally agree but the statement in the report was pretty clear cut. Still taking it with a grain of salt.
     
  20. ocgrad

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    BG is throaty.
     
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