Found Deceased IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #42

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  1. JaimeSommers

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    I respectfully disagree that "we know" everything BBM above. We don't know the girls were "cornered." We don't know they were "herded." We don't know what happened before they were murdered. We can all imagine and suppose, but all we really know right now is that they were murdered. The rest is purely conjecture.

    (I agree that drugs are not the connection in this case, but I don't think it's absurd to float the theory.)

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  2. otto

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    Why would someone pay overtime to monitor incoming tips 7 weeks after the murders. If a tip waited this long, it can wait another day.
     
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  3. MrBosox78

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    That was me being confused with dates.
     
  4. Techjunkie

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    Would you drink in public, close to home, if you knew getting caught could put you in jail for years? Would you do this shortly after bodies showed up on your property drawing world wide attention and hundreds of police? I don't think so. Why would RL do this? If the accusation is true, this man has incredibly bad judgement. I mean, among people with bad judgement, he has really bad judgement.
     
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    In retrospect, this statement by Delphi Police Chief Steve Mullin is interesting.

    “I think people are smart enough in our community to draw their own conclusions about what they should feel and what they shouldn’t feel,” said Mullin. “Our people are very smart, and it’s a very good community, and they’re very strong, and they’re able to draw their own conclusions about this whole situation quite successfully.”

    If I lived in Delphi, Indiana and 2 teenage girls got murdered in a popular hiking spot just outside of town, what 'conclusion' would I draw? Any Delphi locals want to share their first impressions of this crime?







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    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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  8. roseofsharon

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    MOO, it is quite a coincidence that the same day L and A go missing, RL makes a trip to the dump/recycle depot/transfer station and then are found deceased on RL's property.
     
  9. otto

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    Let's look at the part in bold:

    "This is about a man who cornered two children in a rural park, herded them to a secluded location, very likely sexually assaulted one, murdered her, then the other, then murdered her. Then he left the area. That's all we know."​

    We know that the girls were towards the end of the bridge when the suspect approached them. We know that they were unable to escape, were told to go "down the hill", and they did as they were told. We know this simply because their bodies were found "down the hill". As I said, it's "very likely that they were sexually assaulted and murdered in a particular order", so no, we can't know that.
     
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    1 and 4 very much so. Thinking in the same vein. Though I was thinking about my own current working Occam's Razor theory and wondering if that would be too obvious as well. I agree with what someone else said, probably the first people LE looked into? (SO)-- you think a perpetrator would know they'd check those individuals first in a crime like this, and so who would take that risk unless they really, really knew what they were doing and had planned out well ahead of time (or were not so smart).
     
  11. roseofsharon

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    If I am L and A's family, I would not want a tip to wait one second!!!!! MOO
     
  12. WebSight

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    Three! His car was parked across the street from his house "thus having access to his personal vehicle." He wasn't even supposed to have access to his truck.
     
  13. Burnt Toast

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    i would love to see it as well
     
  14. otto

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    I think he was driving the day that the bodies were found on his property. When he had to provide an alibi, he was hooped because his alibi included violating probation. He was caught by accident.
     
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    Am I misreading the probation document? Doesn't it say that his vehicle that he wasn't supposed to be driving while police are swarming his property looking for missing children was parked across the street from his house?
     
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  16. WebSight

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    This is THE find of last couple of the weeks for sure IMO! However did you find it. And now we finally know why RL's probation was revoked.

    Kudos on bringing real new info!:tyou:
     
  17. otto

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    I'm sure that's true, but on the other hand it a tip that could wait 7 weeks can wait another two days. There's no chance of catching the suspect red handed anymore, which is why early tips are especially important.
     
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    The idiot that said Sunday was the 13th did so because they were confused because the girls were not in school at 1pm and assumed it was a weekend(forgetting they had a half day/day off).

    Maybe I'm being to harsh, but I should know by now that it was a Monday!!!!

    Sorry for the confusion!!!!!!
    :) :) :)

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    Great catch!!! Why would he risk violating probation to go to the dumps??? Don't you think after 2 years of being on probation he would have a handyman or someone doing his trash???
     
  20. NightOwl77

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    Sure :) Yea, two individuals on that list that seem like they could be a match, but agree you think they'd know they would be the 1st ones looked at and so why risk it? That part bothers me too. One looks unemployed (currently?) and so it is hard to say if they would be able to provide alibis or not. And that place of work (past or present) sounds like truckers are waiting a long time for goods so could people leave and no one know if someone else clocked them out? I'd love to hear a clip of them saying it too. The feeling I have about all of it (thinking of that scenario) is there was more than one person involved and maybe even other accomplices who they met up with later... just with two victims -- boy, this was a lot to do in a short time window for one person.
    I hope even if they provided alibis they are still keeping an eye on them in case there was a way to cover it up.
     
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