Found Deceased IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #9

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  1. Jabarn

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    Re BBM

    At 1:22 in the news video you can see the cemetary pretty good in this footage.

    Its good thinking about the cemetary may have been used as a lure.

    http://fox59.com/2017/02/16/delphi-...very-of-missing-teens-bodies-on-his-property/
     
  3. Falling Down

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    I shudder just thinking about it, but if the audio was good enough on the phone, from the bridge to the spot where they were murdered, LE might know not only the time it took, but also how many steps Libby took.

    My guess is the distance is under 1/4 mile, easily made, even with the obstacles, in 7-8 minutes.
     
  4. WestieMom

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    I find it hard to believe that these girls would have followed someone through the woods / this terrain to a cemetery - not a stranger - no way
     
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    I dont know why, but every time i look at this guy i picture a monster like dennis rader. Family man middle aged, looks calm and calculating and extremely evil...........................
     
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    Yes! My husband gets his Dad pants at Modells[emoji4] . Called "Relaxed" fit. I hate them, but whatever.

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    Is the cemetery called Morning Heights? If so it is active, with burials at least as recent as 2016.
     
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    An inverse of the snapchat as requested. Just makes it more clear that there's nothing there in my eyes. I don't want to encourage beating a dead horse or anything but I haven't seen an inverse of this photo yet. I wish I knew how to post photos on WS without huge quality loss.

    Hahahahaha, don't you love when the power on your block goes out right when you're uploading something? And when you hear the last dying beep on your cellphone in the silence? :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

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    Liberty German's grandfather, Mike Patty, said the girls phones were "pinging around town".
    Since the girls weren't in town, did the perp take their phones with him into town after the murders?

    "The girls haven’t answered their phones since around the time they went missing.
    “Missing, abducted, we don’t know for sure,” said Patty.” The cellphone has been pinging around town – and here there is a cellphone tower – but the ping was last noted around five to six hours ago. And they say the phone is now dead.”"
    http://wlfi.com/2017/02/14/community-continues-to-search-for-missing-teens-in-carroll-county/
     
  10. Falling Down

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    Enough about cell phone pings. Ugh.
     
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    Add the fact that he had the presence of mind to hide the bodies in the woods (assuming that is what he did) certainly leads to an organized killer.He appears to have been able to approach via a "con" as opposed to a surprise or blitz. His nonchalant approach seems not to have caused the girls any distress until he reached them.
     
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    Is there one that you can inverse where it was a blow up of something behind the tree ..
    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58a5dbc4e4b045cd34bf7443


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  13. everybodhi

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    I've seen articles that say a mile and three fourths of a mile, obviously over rough terrain.
     
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    It's doubtful that Delphi has enough cell towers to be able to determine any sort of vague area that a phone will be pinging in. Libby's phone was pinging "around town" just like everyone else who's sitting at home having dinner or watching football. JMO. All that "pinging around town" likely means is that the phones were on...
     
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    If it was a registered Sex Offender, I would think a DNA match would have already been made?
     
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    Good insight, thank you Tealgrove.

    bbm
    That's why it is so important that LE does these press conferences, even if they have nothing new to share, but it might help someone to overcome this hesitance.
     
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    Is there a time they went missing? I know they were on snapchat at 2pm but I think I saw something regarding a post on FB (Can i mention that?) by a family member saying they had been out of touch for about 3 hours around 6-something pm? That would put them closer to 3-something pm
     
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    Hubby is 51 and son is 29. Both wear baggier pants. They have their conceal and carry permits. Baggy pants makes it easier to carry in their opinions.

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    You mean like allowing himself to be videoed and then possibly not getting the victim's phone? I'd say he at least flunked SK 101
     
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