Found Deceased IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #9

Status
Not open for further replies.

Wondergirl

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 10, 2010
Messages
9,648
Reaction score
2,339
So, I know the hitchhiker theory is being floated.

But my thought is that the dogs would have been able to track the perp through the woods, and LE would be doing large scale manhunt and ground searches- heat sensing searches if he was really suspected of being in the woods at this point?

JMO
 

Gunther Toody

Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2013
Messages
349
Reaction score
22
Here is the image of Abby on the bridge.

If you scroll to the bottom it says "chat"

What does that mean with respect to the image?
serveimage.jpg
 

AusNancyD

New Member
Joined
Apr 23, 2013
Messages
8
Reaction score
0
Sorry, this was a reply to Gunther Toody:
It means that it was sent directly to the person who screenshotted it. When I receive a snap, I have the option to write back to the person. So like when my brother sent me a silly snap of him, I could upswipe and write back that I thought he was an idiot.
 

Gunther Toody

Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2013
Messages
349
Reaction score
22
Many people are saying the image is part of a video...would the word "chat" also appear if that were the case?
 

AFTM

Former Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2017
Messages
760
Reaction score
21
Not only has Libby spoken to LE from beyond the grave, she got LE to hear a second voice, that of her killer, they must be very determined. Posters who live nearby have spoken of finding beauty in the remoteness of this bridge, the BG saw just evil in that remoteness. IMO known offender to carry around that much evil.

There is no evil in the beauty of nature...but in the mind of some men...those men that lie in wait to murder especially the innocent...God does not forgive.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Jennifer.k

Member
Joined
Feb 21, 2017
Messages
90
Reaction score
1
View attachment 110954


http://wlfi.com/2017/02/23/number-o...ect-audio-released-in-delphi-double-homicide/




All of those tips and leads..............there's no way LE could have checked them all out at this point. So the question ...............is our guy buried in that stack of phone calls somewhere ?


Do they already have his name and location but don't even realize it ?

I had the same thought. But to me this guy looks like most middle aged men from where I live and I'm not sure the audio is clear enough to identify so I think its going to take a while.
There is not much from the picture that you could pin point to one single person because IMO it isn't clear enough. If we could see maybe a logo on the jacket or something it would make a difference because then you would think "well bob from next door wears that brand of jacket". Also if he's a loner with no family or friends who's going to suspect him, I know he probably isn't but who knows.
I hope I'm wrong and they catch him soon but I don't think they will.
 

GGE

GGE=GonnaGetEm
Joined
Jul 21, 2012
Messages
6,511
Reaction score
107
One other thing i would like to mention: I think that he had a hold of Liberty when the "down the hill" was recorded. Smart phones don't record audio from more than a couple feet away. and i know personally with my lifeproof case, the quality is very poor even if its not stuffed in a pocket.

My own lifeproof case records/plays back very nicely, so this is probably a case of YMMV.
 

Owl4

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 28, 2016
Messages
532
Reaction score
931
🤔🤔 Ugh! Many good theories here. Especially Steelmans comment and Wondergirl thoughts about BG scent being tracked from hounds? Possible in the beginning? Haven't used much thought process just yet. 😥😥 Good Morning all!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320AZ using Tapatalk
 

sideob

New Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2017
Messages
26
Reaction score
0
I'm beginning to wonder if there weren't 2 perps. I can't think like a murderer, but I just can't see how only 1 person was able to keep both of them quiet and move 2 bodies. JMO

As contradictory as it sounds, it is easier to kill 2 people than 1. It is easier to control victims by threatening their friends and they are usually more compliant, such as by agreeing to be tied up.
 

steelman

Former Member
Joined
Feb 26, 2014
Messages
5,052
Reaction score
154
[video]https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/videos/audio-of-suspected-killer-in-indiana-teens-murder-has-triggered-a-thousand-tips/vp-AAnh5su[/video]

Pretty informative video here with the reporter walking down the hill right next to the bridge.

Posted 14 hours ago on Inside Edition. Loads slowly....so give it a minute.
 

GGE

GGE=GonnaGetEm
Joined
Jul 21, 2012
Messages
6,511
Reaction score
107
Calm and authoritative. I think this awful person has a military background. I hold in high regard our military women and men. PTSD is real and our soldiers snap. I hope this is not the case because I admire all our vets. Just my information and a totally upset grandma.

SBM - I like how you stated this. We can all learn from your way of saying things. I hadn't considered this. Thank you.
 

Mayor Perk

Active Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2016
Messages
70
Reaction score
104
If they have his DNA, they should compare it with the April Tinsley case. That case is haunting and Fort Wayne isn't far away.
 

JJ007

Member
Joined
Feb 16, 2017
Messages
162
Reaction score
26

skibaboo

Mrs Map
Joined
Oct 31, 2011
Messages
10,702
Reaction score
4,859
[video]https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/videos/audio-of-suspected-killer-in-indiana-teens-murder-has-triggered-a-thousand-tips/vp-AAnh5su[/video]

Pretty informative video here with the reporter walking down the hill right next to the bridge.

Posted 14 hours ago on Inside Edition. Loads slowly....so give it a minute.

North or south end? It won't play for me. Still no internet, going stir crazy here
 

GGE

GGE=GonnaGetEm
Joined
Jul 21, 2012
Messages
6,511
Reaction score
107
Okay, to murder someone is never logic to me, but I really can´t understand this: If the suspect was out there to kill (and maybe rape, which we do not know), why would he decide to murder two girls? It seems to me this was very risky for him, because even when they were not as strong as him and he had a weapon, there was a possibility at least one of them could run away and call for help. So, if we try to think like someone who is out there to murder: Why did the suspect not attack a woman who was out there alone? Or alone at another place?
I really do think he knew them, not neccesarily from beeing friends with them or having to do with them on a regular basis, but at least from distance.
Because a total stranger would not see two girls and think "Cool, I am going to kill them" - then if he would, he would have killed lots of times before, wouldn´t he?

Statistically speaking, it's most likely to be sexually motivated. But of course we can't know that.

If it's not, it would be next most likely that they'd be killed to keep them quiet about something. I personally IMO do not find this likely. I can't imagine him doing this to them if they only saw something bad, and if he thought they'd recorded him doing something bad he'd have taken the phone for sure IMO of course.

Something I personally am keeping VERY MUCH in mind is that .. again statistically speaking .... it is very very rare to take and kill two at once. This is akin to a calling card, almost, if it's NOT prompted in the moment by rage, which I don't feel like this situation fits into.

IMO, this person has had other illegal involvements with two young girls at once before. To what extent I don't want to really ponder, but I will say that every time I see the pictures of Abby and Libby, I also in my mind's eye see the photos of Elizabeth and Lyric. I see similarities, personally. JMO.

(Pics I've attached are sourced from the links below them)

elizabethlyric.jpg

abbylibby.jpg

https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/delphigirls021617.jpg?w=622

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/12/d7/aa/12d7aa51ff694a3b758a98b74a916078.jpg
 

gregjrichards

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 15, 2010
Messages
12,361
Reaction score
68,473
Does it look like he has medium brown hair to any of you in the left hand picture? I can see the hood of his hoodie behind his neck and it looks like his hair mostly covers his forehead.

IMG_0042.JPG
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top