Identified! IN - Brownsburg, Male Skeletal UP12734, 40-60, Inside Well Tank, Jul'13 - John Turner

[CarlK90245]

http://www.indystar.com/article/201...ns-found-near-rural-Brownsburg?nclick_check=1

Hendricks County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Jim Yetter said the remains were discovered by a man clearing his three-acre property near Maloney Road and County Road 1050 East near Brownsburg. The man, who bought the property about a month ago, found a 120-gallon well tank — similar, Yetter said, to a large hot water heater.

When the scrapper cut into the tank, he found human skeletal remains and some clothing.

Yetter said the remains appear to be those of a man based on the clothing found in the tank, but he was not entirely sure.

“We have really no telling age or anything at this time,” Yetter said, adding that “these remains have been there for quite some time.”

Yetter said he was unsure whether that meant a period of years or even a decade or more.

 

[CarlK90245]

There isn't a lot to go on other than that the UID is likely male.

But I am going to go out on a limb and place my opening guess as
Jackson Voci Reed

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/voci-reed_jackson.html

Last seen 10 miles away, and almost all of that distance is via a straight shot down West 86th Street.

 

[hannah1988]

This is right where I live! Thanks for bringing this discovery to our attention!

 

[KateB]

Added to Namus
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12734
Dental Status: Dental information / charting is available and entered
DNA Status: Complete - Insufficient DNA for profiling
One ruleout -
Billy Marshall 1937 Indiana

Mr. Voci-Reed was entered into NamUs last month.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/26793/
Dental Status: Dental information / charting is currently not available
DNA Status: Initial inquiry underway
Fingerprint Information Status: Fingerprint information is currently not available

 

[tatertot]

Another article and video with images of his hat and shoes: http://fox59.com/2014/07/18/detectives-hope-youll-recognize-hat-identify-mans-bones/

 

[carbuff]

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12734

He has some characteristics that ought to make him identifiable:

Broken bones in his hand indicate possibly a boxer. The shoes look like they could be boxing or MMA type training shoes, similar to these (not an exact match): http://www.reebok.com/us/reebok-combat-noble-trainer/BS6181.html

He has a hat advertising Appalachian Mechanical, which appears to be an HVAC company in Carlisle PA.

"possible sternotomy wires recovered from chest area" -- Sternotomy is the procedure for opening up the chest for heart, artery, or sometimes bronchial surgery.

Map showing approximate location: https://goo.gl/maps/2MN286eCWAm It's about half an hour's drive outside of Indianapolis via I-65.

 

[Al Ka]

Just to add:

Anthropologists believe he is a Caucasian or Hispanic man, 40-60 years old, 5'9" with a muscular build. Fractures in his right hand suggest he could be a boxer and he had dentures on just his top set of teeth.

http://fox59.com/2014/07/18/detectives-hope-youll-recognize-hat-identify-mans-bones/

“We can safely say … these remains have been in this container for a number of years,” Hendricks County Coroner Joe Neuman said.

Neuman said that the tank is not visible in photos taken within the last two years on the property. That lead him to speculate that the tank could have been dumped.

http://fox59.com/2013/07/22/human-remains-found-in-hendricks-co-field/

The report shows that the bones belong to a man who is at least in his 40’s, most likely older than that. He is believed to be in the vicinity of 5’9″ but a margin of error puts his height between 5’5″ and 6’2″.

Anthropologists are working to piece together the man’s skull and determine his race. Once that work is completed, they will release a final report.

http://fox59.com/2013/11/12/clues-could-identify-man-found-sealed-in-metal-tank/

a pair of mostly intact shoes was found with the body. Neuman said if police could nail down the manufacturing year, it could help them figure out when the person bought them.

The tank itself also became a focal point for investigators. While the bones appeared to have been decaying for quite some time, Hendricks County Detective Terry Judy said the 120-gallon metal tank was dumped on the property sometime between May and July of this year (2013).

Neuman said based on the condition of the tank, it may have one time been repurposed as a tractor roller, which is often pulled behind a tractor to level uneven ground.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news...ins-belong-to-man-of-at-least-age-40/3509821/

 

[YaYa_521]

Another article and video with images of his hat and shoes: Detectives hope you’ll recognize hat, identify man’s bones

Detectives hope you’ll recognize hat, identify man’s bones

 

[YaYa_521]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Still one exclusion - MP12952 Billy Marshall 04/12/1974 -- IN

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP12734
Male, Uncertain
StatusUnidentified
Date Body FoundJuly 22, 2013
Location FoundBrownsburg, Indiana
Estimated Age Range40-60 Years

Case Numbers
NCMEC Number--
ME/C Case Number13-1877

Demographics
SexMale
Race / EthnicityUncertain
Possible First Name--
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last Name--
Possible Nickname--
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 90
Estimated Age Range (Years)40-60
Estimated Year of Death--
Estimated PMI--
HeightCannot Estimate
WeightCannot Estimate

Circumstances
TypeUnidentified Deceased
Date Body FoundJuly 22, 2013
NamUs Case CreatedJuly 10, 2014
ME/C QA Reviewed--

Location Found
LocationBrownsburg, Indiana 46112
CountyHendricks County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped)--
Found On Tribal Land--
Circumstances of Recovery - Skeletal remains was found Brownsburg, IN

Inventory of RemainsAll parts recovered
Condition of RemainsNot recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton

Physical Description
Hair ColorUnknown
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye ColorUnknown
Right Eye ColorUnknown
Eye Description--

Distinctive Physical Features
Item
Description
Other distinctive physical characteristic
upper dentures

Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Clothing
hat w/"appalachian mechnical"
Near the Body

Footwear
reebok sneakers,
On the Body

Jewelry
watch w/leather strap, gold ring,
On the Body

 

[YaYa_521]

Photo with partial view of the tank.

Coroner: Tank with human bones inside may have been dumped

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We can safely say … these remains have been in this container for a number of years,”

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the tank is not visible in photos taken within the last two years on the property.

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120-gallon well tank that was sealed.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

This seems like a reconstruction might be helpful.

 

[YaYa_521]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

He has some characteristics that ought to make him identifiable:

Broken bones in his hand indicate possibly a boxer. The shoes look like they could be boxing or MMA type training shoes, similar to these (not an exact match): Reebok Sport | Reebok Online Shop | Reebok US

He has a hat advertising Appalachian Mechanical, which appears to be an HVAC company in Carlisle PA.

"possible sternotomy wires recovered from chest area" -- Sternotomy is the procedure for opening up the chest for heart, artery, or sometimes bronchial surgery.

Map showing approximate location: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏ It's about half an hour's drive outside of Indianapolis via I-65.

It's odd that they think he may have been a boxer yet they didn't mention broken facial bones, especially his nose. It seems that if he was alive when he was placed in the tank, he might have broken his hands banging against the walls in an effort to get help. I suppose autopsy showed evidence of healed breaks prior to death.

 

[meanmaryjean]

It's odd that they think he may have been a boxer yet they didn't mention broken facial bones, especially his nose. It seems that if he was alive when he was placed in the tank, he might have broken his hands banging against the walls in an effort to get help. I suppose autopsy showed evidence of healed breaks prior to death.

My thought is he had what we call a boxer's fracture. Typically happens when someone punches a hard surface like a wall. Boxer's hands are actually well-protected by wrap and gloves - so I am leaning toward someone with a temper vs. an actual boxer.

 

[YaYa_521]

Timothy Clayton Crissman went missing from his Armstrong County, PA farm in 1996. He had a recent traffic accident and breakup prior to his disappearance.

Is autopsy going to reveal multiple sclerosis? Would the 2" leg length difference been noticed at autopsy given the condition of the remains? Is it common to break hand bones in a motorcycle accident?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Timothy Clayton Crissman – The Charley Project

• Medical Conditions Crissman has multiple sclerosis. He may have been suicidal at the time of his disappearance.
• Distinguishing CharacteristicsCaucasian male. Brown hair, brown eyes. Crissman's left leg is scarred and approximately two inches shorter than his right leg as the result of a motorcycle accident. He may have a beard.

 

[carbuff]

One thing in favor of Crissman--he's missing from Armstrong County PA; I tracked Appalachian Mechanical, the company named in his hat, to Carlisle PA. Not real close but in the ballpark.

 

[YaYa_521]

One thing in favor of Crissman--he's missing from Armstrong County PA; I tracked Appalachian Mechanical, the company named in his hat, to Carlisle PA. Not real close but in the ballpark.

Your tracking along with the possibility the tank was used as farming equip is what made me snoop around for farmers/farming circumstances in PA.

 

[YaYa_521]

My thought is he had what we call a boxer's fracture. Typically happens when someone punches a hard surface like a wall. Boxer's hands are actually well-protected by wrap and gloves - so I am leaning toward someone with a temper vs. an actual boxer.

Ty for this info!

 

[carbuff]

Your tracking along with the possibility the tank was used as farming equip is what made me snoop around for farmers/farming circumstances in PA.

I think you should send him in. He looks very very likely to me.

 

[Coffee56]

So after reading up on Tom I think if he was murdered anything could have been done with his remains. Sharing due to the Carlisle PA/Appalachian Mechanical hat connection.
Time frame looks ok.

Thomas L. Hayden Sr. – The Charley Project

Discovery of blood, hair in Foodsaver bag opens unsolved mystery of missing Dover Twp. man

Police: Human remains found in 2012 were Dover Twp. man; wife charged with homicide

 

[carbuff]

Hmmm, yeah, possible. Hayden seems to be wearing similar hats in the photos.

adding: Here's his thread on Websleuths. PA - PA - Thomas Hayden, 69, York County, 27 Sept 2011 (family reported him missing in 2017)