IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #4

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  1. Safeguard

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    Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
    Fun-filled family vacation turns tragic with cruise...

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    For the record, they didn't start a single ***. Friends and family started those acounts trying to help.

    Just like when Olympic Skier Bode, lost his little girl, and there was a huge outcry... How could such a wealthy couple beg for money?!

    They didnt. People wanted to help and they started those accounts on behalf of the family.

    And it really doesn't matter or take anything away from the rest of us.

    As for slamming the cruise the line? I would despise the Cruise line where my baby died.

    May not be "rational" ot fair. But I wouldn't give a fck.
     
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    Ugh. No thank you!
     
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    Now here, we agree.
     
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    ^5!
     
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    Maybe so but I would also hate my stepfather for being the one to drop her and it's sickening for her to defend him.
     
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    The responses indicate Nancy Grace is not a respected journalist, I’m from Australia so I wouldn’t know. :eek::D
     
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    I hear you! I would probably feel the same were it were my little girl, (I only have one girl, out of five children!).

    But I must say nothing this mom does, "sickens" me, (SA is a whole nother thing!). I would never presume to understand her emotional state.
    Could be, she is in such pain that even she doesn't understand her reasoning process right now.
    She doesn't "sicken" me. Not by a country mile.
     
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    Yeah. She's really not that 'graceful' despite the name. She messed up so many details in the Abby & Libby case it was shameful.

    She couldn't even get their ages right. It's clear she didn't even care at all.
    I've avoided her her ever since.

    But even before that she was coming off as a self important pomus @ss.

    BOMBSHELL! Nobody takes Nancy Grace Seriously anymore!
     
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    Years ago I liked her show and I still think Beth Karas is great!
     
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    Since the Freedom (built in 2006), refurbished 3 years ago and the Voyager (built 1998) was refurbished this year and still the windows remain openable.

    Surely if RC knew the windows were non-regulation that’s the first thing they would’ve been changed. Right?

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    :D:D Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    Hmmm. Maybe because they did meet standards and no person, other than Chloe, ever got dropped out one, they obviously had inspections before each cruise. Perhaps they were planning upgrades but hadn't yet.

    Since the windows weren't dangerous they had time.
     
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    Haha! This article is from July. My how things have changed!

    Love this line: "their attorney, who described the girl as “a sweet, loving girl."

    Yeah... a girl he never knew!

    Really, there is a universal way to describe a two year old:

    They're short, stubborn, semi-potty trained, sweet and lovable at times.

    They are ALL like that I tell ya!
     
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    I guess what I was trying to say earlier is that there are premeditated money-grabs and opportunistic money-grabs. This is an opportunistic money-grab IMO.

    An undoubtedly tragic and unimaginable incident happened to their baby and they are exploiting it for cold hard cash. NOT so that “no other child gets hurt” because.. no other child has EVER been hurt by being dropped out of a cruise ship window. This is obviously about money, hence the public perception of this family as [opportunistic] money-grubbers. IMOO.
     
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    I sense more anger than greed. They don't need money. They need to do something, anything for Chloe, they need a way to vent that doesn't dishoner what she would have wanted. jmo.
     
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    maybe reason he declined sobriety test
     
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