IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #6

Discussion in 'Crimes-Spotlight on Children' started by IceIce9, Oct 28, 2019.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. IceIce9

    IceIce9 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,885
    Likes Received:
    15,204
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 6, 2020


  2. jeena

    jeena Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    180
    Likes Received:
    814
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I don't understand why some posters are saying SA picked her up overhead and threw her out the window, when the behind video shows SA lifting her, standing her up on the right side of him on the railing, then he switches her to his left side. Now CW appears to be further away from him, possibly sitting on or being held by SA near the metal window frame. With all the antics SA went through handling CW, I don't think her killing was intentional, otherwise SA would probably have thrown her out the window right after he lifted her up. SA admitted to standing her up, sitting her down, holding her with one arm, etc.
     
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2020
    borndem, Pak31, TRB and 9 others like this.
  3. SaguaroSpirit

    SaguaroSpirit Happy Times in Cactus Land

    Messages:
    1,345
    Likes Received:
    14,093
    Trophy Points:
    113
    BBM I personally can't believe people who lie and change their stories. IMOO
     
    BeachSky, Fidobell, sl222 and 5 others like this.
  4. Montrealaise

    Montrealaise Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes Received:
    2,576
    Trophy Points:
    93
    CW's parents say they haven't seen the video, but I wonder whether any other family members have - such as her paternal grandparents, her biological maternal grandfather or her aunts and uncles. After all, the video is accessible to anyone who knows their way around the internet. If they have, that may explain the radio silence from the family and their lawyer since the release of the video.
     
    MsFacetious, kelseykixx, TRB and 14 others like this.
  5. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

    Messages:
    27,919
    Likes Received:
    32,813
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is the test that I took a few weeks ago when someone posted it. I definitely struggled to see some of the numbers in the colored circles, and there were a few that really had me guessing. It was almost as stressful as the visual field test that I do annually at my ophthalmologist's. I'm sure that SA will be required to undergo similar testing by at least one certified ophthalmologist. He won't be able to "fake" his answers, and there will be a diagnosis based on his performance.
     
  6. jeena

    jeena Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    180
    Likes Received:
    814
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I wonder if RCCL has a "smoking gun" video not released to the public showing exactly what movement SA made to cause her fatal fall?
     
    momsof3, Pammi, MsFacetious and 14 others like this.
  7. BeachSky

    BeachSky Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,057
    Likes Received:
    7,759
    Trophy Points:
    113


    I wonder how the other set of grandparents feel about what SA did with their precious granddaughter. Any word from them?

    MOO
     
  8. jeena

    jeena Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    180
    Likes Received:
    814
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Actually there are two other sets of grandparents, the Wiegands and the Schultz's, Scott Schultz is KW's bio father. I didn't know if you were referring to both sets, but I haven't read of any reactions from the four. I noticed CW's aunt and uncle wrote condolences on the memory pages.
     
  9. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,311
    Likes Received:
    20,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It sure did, after he stuck his head through the window. Or will he say he thought there was a second panel of glass beyond that point? You know, outside the boat suspended in midair.
     
  10. BeachSky

    BeachSky Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,057
    Likes Received:
    7,759
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I do not either.I think he was practicing his narcissistic bravado, showing off possibly, doing exactly what HE wanted to do. Much like not wearing a seatbelt.
    We had a man visiting in our group down on the beach. He wanted to run out into the ocean waves carrying someone’s baby. We all explained to him that the ocean shelf on our beach drops off suddenly . IOW he was told NO because it is dangerous when relying on keeping your feet “grounded” ...even a few out. Told us we were all crazy..sulked off. I imagine he would of done it - if not for our intervention. Dropped,endangered the baby he would of been carrying. Can’t make this stuff up. Some with Narc personality disorder think rules don’t apply to them. They get fuel from being defiant I guess.

    MO experience
     
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2020
  11. IceIce9

    IceIce9 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,885
    Likes Received:
    15,204
    Trophy Points:
    113
    [/QUOTE]
    Their silence speaks volumes, IMO.

    I certainly haven’t seen any sign of support for SA from any of them. Or SA’s wife for that matter.
     
  12. IceIce9

    IceIce9 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,885
    Likes Received:
    15,204
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The colorblindness went out the window when his head went out the window. Twice.

    MOO
     
  13. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,311
    Likes Received:
    20,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
  14. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,311
    Likes Received:
    20,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Exactly. That video of him and his fake sobbing routine is so pathetic, makes me want to throw up.
     
  15. BeachSky

    BeachSky Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,057
    Likes Received:
    7,759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I’m just curious how the OTHER grands on Chloe’s dad side...
    or even OTHER relatives really feel about how SA endangered & killed their Chloe.
    Probably being quiet ...but if we see the insane choice he made.... well.

    JMO
     
  16. Pammi

    Pammi Member

    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    605
    Trophy Points:
    83
    They have multiple cameras in every area, I believe there’s probably a camera from behind the bar facing that area, and likely on the outside of the boat to monitor stupidity on the suite balconies. I think yes there’s more.
     
    MerBeach, momsof3, sassyblue and 19 others like this.
  17. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,311
    Likes Received:
    20,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Except he looked out the window, not at the floor. So now what SA?
     
  18. IceIce9

    IceIce9 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,885
    Likes Received:
    15,204
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A test you take online won’t be as accurate as a test performed by a trained technician. The number plates used are to be stored in a dark, humidity-controlled environment to protect the colors.

    There are some “fake” plates thrown in randomly that have NO color deficiency feature built in. In other words, any person being tested, whether color blind or not, would be able to read the number on the “fake” plates. So if someone says they can’t read the “fake” plate number you can assume it is someone who wants to fail the test, for whatever reason.

    In testing for color vision we would first use a simple Ishihara plate test. These are the most common screening tests, and usually consist of 15 or more number plates. A few “fake” plates will be thrown in to catch fakers. A person with red-green color blindness will see some numbers differently, or not be able to distinguish a number at all.

    For example, the number 8 on a speckled background with different contrasting colors will appear as a 3 to a person with red-green color blindness, while a person with normal vision will see an 8.

    If someone fails the Ishihara plate screening test, there are a few other tests that can be done by a technician that are more diagnostic in nature. A person failing those tests would be referred to a specialist.
     
  19. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,777
    Likes Received:
    50,959
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thank you. My point exactly! With this evidence to back up my initial reaction to this preposterous story.
     
  20. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,777
    Likes Received:
    50,959
    Trophy Points:
    113
    People who "fake" the test, when they say they can't "see" anything, the clinical term is, "malingering". It is very interesting to watch people who are malingering, as opposed to people who are actually impaired.
     
    Kittybunny, sassyblue, NoSI and 5 others like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice