GUILTY IN - Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, arrested Aug 29, 2020, 30 Counts associated with CSAM

[Betty P]

KAK claims he doesn't remember ever communicating with L. So was it just a coincidence that right around the time of the murders, before LE had even talked to KAK about anything, KAK decided he was "f'ed" and brought an extra bag to Vegas so he could go back after his dad fell asleep? What was he so worried about? That bit is from the affidavit, not the interview, so I consider it factual. Did he have reason to think he was about to get busted for CSAM, maybe? Why was he following the Delphi case and then immediately looking up how long DNA lasts and if IP addresses could be traced? This was from the interview, but KAK did not refute it.

Then we have BP and KG confirming that a_shots was communicating with L. Of course, we can't say for sure who was the user of a_shots in those communications, but the creator of a_shots happened to be the same guy who days after the murders suddenly thought he was "f'ed." If the user was KAK, he's lying, and if it was not KAK, he's telling the truth, but then we need an explanation for why he thought he was "f'ed," and how someone else was using his account.

Remember, per the affidavit, the FBI is the one who told ISP Cyber Crimes Unit about a_shots very early on. It isn't clear whether the SC and Comcast subpoenas were submitted and received before the FBI gave ISP this information, or after, but we're talking 11 days after the bodies were found they were ready with this data and a search warrant. So was the FBI already watching a_shots, before the murders, and maybe KAK knew it? In the end, the question is who was using a_shots in the communications with L, when did LE know about it, and how?

Now, could this all be coincidental to the murders? Sure. It's certainly a worthy trail for LE to sniff out, though.

JMO, KAK isn't trustworthy about anything. His connections to a_shots and possibly by extension, to the murders of Abby and Libby, most likely come from the FBI monitoring his social media accounts, dropbox, etc. These perv networks cross state lines.

FBI would be able to identify everyone who accessed those sites, what was there and trace the users back to an IP address. Talking to KAK was helpful in getting some additional information and learning of the level of his activities, but the feds could probably find out much more investigating online.

JMO, FBI was probably the agency that gave KAK's info to local LE. <modsnip: No link to support info stated as fact>

If KAK knew the FBI or someone else was watching him, why didn't he stop?

 

[TL4S]

Respectfully, KAK owned up to communicating with Libby. Here's the text from a post I made over on the Delphi murder thread:

A is KAK, Q is unidentified officer doing the interviewing. See the very first line of page 1 from the link at the bottom.

16 Q: - what, we need to discuss it. Okay? Umm you had told investigators umm and I
17 know you say you don't remember a girl that you ever talked to but I know you
18 remember Liberty German?
19 A: (inaudible)
20 Q: Right and you know you talked to her and you admitted to talking to her? And -
21 A: I don't think I ever did though. I think I talked to one of her friends like I told
22 them. (inaudible)
23 Q: You, you admitted that you talked to her -
1 A: (inaudible)
2 Q: - for a few hours at a sleepover and then you blocked her because she was
3 annoying. You remember that?
4 A: You're right yeah.
5 Q: You remember that?
6 A: Yeah. Um hum.

Pgs 125/126 of KAKs interrogation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yx5KO5JgwVdpVR5D9Reykk57BHVAm7VcimyvGhUa0nQ/edit

I totally agree. He's gone back and forth, but his latest, the BMcD interview, he denied doing it. That's my thing...he's obviously lying about so many things that none of it adds up.

 

[TL4S]

JMO, KAK isn't trustworthy about anything. His connections to a_shots and possibly by extension, to the murders of Abby and Libby, most likely come from the FBI monitoring his social media accounts, dropbox, etc. These perv networks cross state lines.

FBI would be able to identify everyone who accessed those sites, what was there and trace the users back to an IP address. Talking to KAK was helpful in getting some additional information and learning of the level of his activities, but the feds could probably find out much more investigating online.

JMO, FBI was probably the agency that gave KAK's info to local LE. <modsnip: No link to support information stated as fact>

If KAK knew the FBI or someone else was watching him, why didn't he stop?

Yes, I also think the FBI gave the a_shots/KAK info to local LE, but it all happened so fast that it's really hard for me to believe that KAK thought he was "f'ed" and the FBI handed over CSAM info to ISP and the girls were murdered all at the same time, and all unrelated. You make a good point...if KAK knew he was on the radar for CSAM, why did he keep doing it in Vegas, and why not delete his stuff? It only adds up to him thinking he was going to be linked to the murders. It doesn't mean he was involved, necessarily, but he definitely figured he was going to be a suspect, I think. JMO.

ETA: Remember the Samsung he claims he found in the rental car but later says must be the phone he was using 10 days prior to finding it in the car? Yeah...it was factory reset. Unfortunately, I am very concerned that L did more than just chat a couple times with a_shots, or I don't think KAK would have been so worried.

 

[zencompass]

Do you think they will call him to testify? If they do, will defense be able to introduce the KAK interrogation as evidence that LE believed there was another person using KAK's accts?

Dear @FrostedGlass,

Jerry A. Kline is on the list so if they want him to testify and he doesn't want to - he will receive a subpoena to testify.

It may be in his best interest to testify in order to clear his name, although there are always risks involved in testifying (as we've all seen in other trials).

 

[Betty P]

Yes, I also think the FBI gave the a_shots/KAK info to local LE, but it all happened so fast that it's really hard for me to believe that KAK thought he was "f'ed" and the FBI handed over CSAM info to ISP and the girls were murdered all at the same time, and all unrelated. You make a good point...if KAK knew he was on the radar for CSAM, why did he keep doing it in Vegas, and why not delete his stuff? It only adds up to him thinking he was going to be linked to the murders. It doesn't mean he was involved, necessarily, but he definitely figured he was going to be a suspect, I think. JMO.

ETA: Remember the Samsung he claims he found in the rental car but later says must be the phone he was using 10 days prior to finding it in the car? Yeah...it was factory reset. Unfortunately, I am very concerned that L did more than just chat a couple times with a_shots, or I don't think KAK would have been so worried.

The gap between the time L would have been communicating w/ a_shots and ISP looking closer at KAK and the chain of events that followed could be explained by ISP not being interested in following that trail.

But once ISP did focus on it, the feds had a lot of information they used to develop a list of suspects. It included RA. JMO

It does sound like he was starting to delete a lot of data around the time of the Las Vegas trip, but it probably didn't help him.

Once they had enough to arrest RA, everything public related to KAK shut down. Feds are protecting their investigation, sources and methods. If that data is used in RA's trial, they'll offer only what's necessary to make the case.

It's been like this on a couple of other murder cases I've followed here in the last couple of years. In the ones linked to online "sickos" networks, once arrests are made, gag orders are issued and very little is revealed about phone/internet data until the trial. If linked to online creep investigations, the info released is very focused and the door closes after that.

 

[raja]

Dear @FrostedGlass,

Jerry A. Kline is on the list so if they want him to testify and he doesn't want to - he will receive a subpoena to testify.

It may be in his best interest to testify in order to clear his name, although there are always risks involved in testifying (as we've all seen in other trials).

Is JK KK’s father? I thought Tk was his dad. I’m confused.

 

[TL4S]

Is JK KK’s father? I thought Tk was his dad. I’m confused.

TK, JK, JAK are all the same person. Jerry is first name, Anthony (Tony) is middle.

 

[raja]

TK, JK, JAK are all the same person. Jerry is first name, Anthony (Tony) is middle.

Thank you so much.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Dear @FrostedGlass,

Jerry A. Kline is on the list so if they want him to testify and he doesn't want to - he will receive a subpoena to testify.

It may be in his best interest to testify in order to clear his name, although there are always risks involved in testifying (as we've all seen in other trials).

I agree but will it be in prosecutions' best interest to call him knowing what was said in the interrogation? Unless he says KAK's friend was also at the house during the times two devices were being used.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Once they had enough to arrest RA, everything public related to KAK shut down. Feds are protecting their investigation, sources and methods. If that data is used in RA's trial, they'll offer only what's necessary to make the case.

MOO
RA's arrest and charges stand on their own merit, evidence/probable cause. There are no gaping holes in the case that need to be filled by a 2nd suspect.

If RA had been arrested soon after the murders, as I think he would have been if the report had been taken directly to the investigators, it would have had nothing to do with KK or any of his digital data.

I don't see any effect that RA's arrest has had on KAK's court case or information being restricted. Everything that could be released/found out about KAK was on the internet before RA's arrest.
There have been claimed "leaks" but nothing in any of the "leaked information" can be verified.

In my opinion, KAK's court case, with the exception of the accidental transcript of his 2nd interrogation, has been sealed for 2 1/2 years.

 

[TL4S]

MOO
RA's arrest and charges stand on their own merit, evidence/probable cause. There are no gaping holes in the case that need to be filled by a 2nd suspect.

If RA had been arrested soon after the murders, as I think he would have been if the report had been taken directly to the investigators, it would have had nothing to do with KK or any of his digital data.

I don't see any effect that RA's arrest has had on KAK's court case or information being restricted. Everything that could be released/found out about KAK was on the internet before RA's arrest.
There have been claimed "leaks" but nothing in any of the "leaked information" can be verified.

In my opinion, KAK's court case, with the exception of the accidental transcript of his 2nd interrogation, has been sealed for 2 1/2 years.

I will agree about his case being sealed. Nobody, including media, has been able to get the PCA for the 2/25/17 Peru house search warrant. I'd be very interested in seeing that.

 

[zencompass]

Hmmmm... not sure I could believe everything his father says. And yes, I can say that before even hearing what he says as I feel a lot of parents, family, and friends tend to have a hard time thinking their loved one could be guilty of something. It should be obviously but I'll say it anyway... that was all MOO. lol

Dear Gemmie,

Great insight - as usual!

Just curious what questions the Prosecution will ask JAK and what evidence (against KAK) they
might show JAK to hear his answers.

In my opinion, this trial will be very interesting, although about a terrible subject.

JMO

 

[Gemmie]

Dear Gemmie,

Great insight - as usual!

Just curious what questions the Prosecution will ask JAK and what evidence (against KAK) they
might show JAK to hear his answers.

In my opinion, this trial will be very interesting, although about a terrible subject.

JMO

Good question! With more info than we have about KAK I'm sure they'll come up with some juicy questioning. Do we know if the trial will be broadcast live, or if cameras won't be allowed? I can only imagine that there will be a lot of jaw-dropping. Speaking only for myself! lol

 

[arielilane]

A few pages back a sleuth asked about FBI agent Robinson, here is link to Logan search:

New details in Delphi murders - News & Review

The bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, teenage girls killed near the Monon High Bridge Trail in 2017, appeared to have been “moved” or “staged,” and the girls “had no visible signs of a struggle or fight,” a FBI Special Agent believes. The News & Review has obtained a 9-page document...

www.newsandreviewonline.com

 

[arielilane]

Hard to believe KAK is finally going to trial, seems forever. Glad he will have to answer to charges of alleged criminal acts.

The Sun's version:

Chilling new details on child pornography case tied to Delphi Snapchat murders

PROSECUTORS have revealed a list of potential witnesses for the trial of a man who spoke to Libby German just hours before she was killed. Libby, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, were found dead in 20…

www.thesun.co.uk

The list includes law enforcement investigators, a reporter, Kline's father, Jerry Kline, two former friends, and an alleged victim.

The male model, whose images were used Kline's fake profile, is also named on the list.

Kline’s ex-girlfriend and an Alaska police officer are also on the list.

Kevin Greenlee, host of The Murder Sheet, said: "This witness list is basically not a final product.

"There may be other people called who are not on the list and also its not even a guarantee that everybody who is on that list will actually be called."

During a police interview in 2020, Kline admitted communicating with Libby - but denied any involvement in the murders.

In an exchange with another teenager the day after learning the girls had been murdered, Kline revealed he had plans to meet Libby on the Monon High Bridge but she "never showed".

 

[zencompass]

Good question! With more info than we have about KAK I'm sure they'll come up with some juicy questioning. Do we know if the trial will be broadcast live, or if cameras won't be allowed? I can only imagine that there will be a lot of jaw-dropping. Speaking only for myself! lol

ETA: Thank you dear @FrostedGlass and @legalmomma for finding the accurate answer for
my question.

So, there is a possibility, depending on the Judge's decision to have it livestreamed.

Good morning Gemmie,

As far as I know, the Court conducting KAK's trial isn't included in the courts that allow livestreaming in Indiana.

If anyone here knows that this has changed, please let me know and thanks!

IN Court Streams - IN Court Streams

Indiana Supreme Court, Public Access

public.courts.in.gov

 

[FrostedGlass]

Good morning Gemmie,

As far as I know, the Court conducting KAK's trial isn't included in the courts that allow livestreaming in Indiana.

If anyone here knows that this has changed, please let me know and thanks!

IN Court Streams - IN Court Streams

Indiana Supreme Court, Public Access

public.courts.in.gov

When Covid hit and the public was not allowed in the court rooms, the courts were given permission to live stream to the public. Not all chose to do that, though; and even fewer are doing it now. Elkhart Co. circuit court still streams its cases daily.

As of May 1, 2023, they are allowing news cameras in the courtroom, at the judge's discretion.

Press release: Cameras in courts

www.in.gov

 

[legalmomma]

Good morning Gemmie,

As far as I know, the Court conducting KAK's trial isn't included in the courts that allow livestreaming in Indiana.

If anyone here knows that this has changed, please let me know and thanks!

IN Court Streams - IN Court Streams

Indiana Supreme Court, Public Access

public.courts.in.gov

I believe the live proceeding/court links shown here are those currently live at the moment, not those courts that allow live cameras. As posted above, it is up to the Judge whether the proceedings will be posted live.

 

[zencompass]

When Covid hit and the public was not allowed in the court rooms, the courts were given permission to live stream to the public. Not all chose to do that, though; and even fewer are doing it now. Elkhart Co. circuit court still streams its cases daily.

As of May 1, 2023, they are allowing news cameras in the courtroom, at the judge's discretion.

Press release: Cameras in courts

www.in.gov

Thank you @FrostedGlass for clearing this up!

Greatly appreciated!

 

[zencompass]

I believe the live proceeding/court links shown here are those currently live at the moment, not those courts that allow live cameras. As posted above, it is up to the Judge whether the proceedings will be posted live.

Thank you @legalmomma ! Greatly appreciated!

Good to know that it is a possibility.