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IN- Lafayette, Ryan Martin, 29, murdered in suspect Talmadge Jasper's home , 23 May 2019

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  1. thesensitivechild

    thesensitivechild Well-Known Member

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    The odds of two murderers from Delphi in such a short time is very scary. It is also scary to look at his FB friends and see some who have been accused on unfounded grounds of being involved in the double homicides of (I find something uncanny about it all). On the other hand I could see how experiencing the ripple effect of a double murder in ones small town might significantly impact any teen, let alone one who was already trying to escape reality and later did so through drug use.

    Have we been wrong this whole time? I feel so uncomfortable and disturbed.

    None of this seems to fit. And so it may

    ETA: also friends with family of one of the girls. If this is against TOS I apologize and please remove

    I want him to be ruled out just so I don’t entertain this. Because it seems absolutely absurdist of me.
     
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  2. sleuther0192837465

    sleuther0192837465 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, @IQuestion but anything I post I have learned from the veteran WS’ers here. They have been kind enough to share sources & links here. I just track things as they arise.
    Sleuther is fine :)
    I apologize, but I can not find any info on a make or model of TJ’s vehicle.
    I agree with where you are going with the vehicle info.
    I also agree that SR is a brave young woman. It takes brass ones (ykwim) to file for a protection order in the first place & to follow through with calling LE when it’s broken.
    MOO
     
  3. raja

    raja Well-Known Member

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    I believe he was beaten and strangled.
     
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  4. thesensitivechild

    thesensitivechild Well-Known Member

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    Han Well-Known Member

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  6. rosesfromangels

    rosesfromangels Amateur speculations and opinion only

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    He must have caught him off guard, as typically, if size is relatively equivalent, a 29 year old would typically outstrength a 19 year old.

    Amateur opinion and speculation
     
  7. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Short on facts, long on speculation. Because I don’t understand why the 29 year old victim would go anywhere near the suspect’s apartment considering his 18 year old girlfriend had earlier filed a protection order. Plotting to steal a car and keys is all for naught if the victim had refused to have anything to do with TJ, which in the normal course of events would seem prudent.

    I had a fleeting thought maybe RM went over to pick up things that SR left behind if she’d recently lived in that apartment and left because of the incident involving the protection order. I’m curious how long SR and RM had been involved in a relationship because this all seems like it might be similar to a love triangle that ended horribly wrong.
     
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  8. Tiger Stripes

    Tiger Stripes Well-Known Member

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    BBM
    @IQuestion: the world's weasels thank you!:) (needed a touch of humor, especially with such a case as this one)

    (Thinking now of other "human weasels" [i. e., in very nearby towns to Lafayette, IN] who need to be apprehended and incarcerated ASAP.)
     
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  9. anotherjenny

    anotherjenny Well-Known Member

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    I'd be interested to know where RM's car ended up being found.
     
  10. tmar

    tmar Well-Known Member

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    Welcome Elbr.:):):)
    Hope to hear loads more from you soon.
     
  11. Backstroke10

    Backstroke10 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Do we know Martins size like height, thin or muscular etc... Of course if Jasper was in a rage, it probably wouldn’t matter. MOO
     
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  12. anotherjenny

    anotherjenny Well-Known Member

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    <modsnip - to remove a quote that has been removed>

    Or maybe the current boyfriend was asked by the girlfriend to play friends in order to get information out of Jasper. Maybe Jasper felt threatened (due to what was a real threat or perceived as a real threat) and snapped. Another very real possibility is fear of exposure or a rage induced killing. Unless Jasper himself had plotted this in advance (the MO doesn’t seem to suggest that however)

    The only reason I can imagine Martin going anywhere with him would be because 1. He didn’t know his current girlfriend used to date Jasper (unlikely) 2. Drugs 3. Picking up clothes of the girlfriend or something like that as suggested above 4. To have a “conversation” about something as a means to confront 5. Because the girlfriend asked to get more information out of him regarding something (basically a version of 4) 6. Jasper told Martin he wanted to talk and apologize (which could be an act of premeditated murder or just that the talk didn’t go as planned).[/QUOTE]
    Or he was forced to go with him
     
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  13. anotherjenny

    anotherjenny Well-Known Member

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    With a PO in place, I can't see the gf asking her now bf to have any contact with TJ, but I could be wrong.
     
  14. IQuestion

    IQuestion Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate the "thinking out of the box" as to why Ryan went into the apartment. If it was to cause or confront...TJ had more than ample opportunity to call the police and report the problem. Add to the fact NOT ONE NEIGHBOR has claimed to have heard an argument. So, from that, I am going to surmise Ryan was hit from behind (Ie, blunt force trauma to head) and also strangled (per coroner's report)...easy enough to accomplish if the victim has already been knocked unconscious. But the fact is he didn't and instead hid Ryan's body in a closet for more than 12 hours!!....acknowledgment of guilt (?). Hiding a body kind of screams, "I don't want anyone to see what I have done." And, he was strong enough to drag Ryan's body into a closet. (!! disgusting) The next fact is the arrest record states "invasion of privacy and entering a residence" NOT BREAKING AND ENTERING...so how do you think he got into SR's home?? I think the answer is evident....he used Ryan's keys and walked into the home, no doubt very proud of how he figured out how to scare poor SR half to death.
    Who knows, how his mind works? Maybe he schmoozed Ryan for weeks and feigned "no hard feelings, buddy....I now see the error of my ways." "Hey, I want to give you my bigscreen TV" or "Can you help me move a sofa" (some kind of innocent request or ruse). Be assured, Ryan and SR are the victims.
     
  15. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    I’m not denying Ryan is a victim at all. I’m just curious why he went willingly to TJ’s apartment, assuming he wasn’t forced. Its uncommon for new boyfriends to hang out with their girlfriend’s ex, especially those who have protection orders filed against them. There’s more to this story, as it is it doesn’t quite make sense.
     
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  16. Bluntgirl

    Bluntgirl The truth WILL come out

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    Great post! (As usual) A lot to consider!
     
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  17. MistyWaters

    MistyWaters Well-Known Member

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    Lafayette man killed, found in suspect's apartment

    This report is also very vague.

    8:05am SR call LE about the protection order, claiming TJ was at RMs home, where she was as well. But TJ had already left. She also tells LE she had expected RM to be home that morning.

    While investigating the missing persons report, somebody tells LE they saw RM at TJs apartment “earlier in the day”.

    TJ tells LE RM gave him a ride home from work that morning and stopped in at his apartment and RM left after receiving a phone call or text.

    At 8:30pm LE obtains a search warrant and then find RMs body in TJs closet, beaten and manually strangled.
     
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  18. IQuestion

    IQuestion Well-Known Member

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    ... the results of the autopsy report "blunt force trauma and manual strangulation" was not issued until the following day. The police had no idea they would find Ryan in TJ's closet. They had to search the apartment to find Ryan. The victim did not put himself in the closet, TJ had to drag him in there. Can we assume/agree Ryan had been deceased or incapacitated for over 12 hours as he did not answer his phone? Since LE had to get a search warrant, as I am also assuming TJ did not say, "Guys, Come on in and have a look around." Bizarre doesn't even begin to describe these recent events. Shocking, but in many ways not surprising either. I think TJ was a youthful offender, who got too many passes and his escalating violence has finally caught up with him.
     
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  19. IQuestion

    IQuestion Well-Known Member

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    bbm above Giving a co-worker a ride home from work would not be my definition of "hanging out." The drive was on his way home from work, and they lived less than a mile from each other... Ryan was just a kind man and didn't deserve this horrible fate.
     
  20. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    In Mycase TJ is 5'11" and RM 6'0" with RM being a bit heavier so not a lot in it.

    Case Search - MyCase

    Case Summary

    State of Indiana v. Talmadge R. Jasper
    Case Number 79D04-1905-MC-000505
    Court Tippecanoe Superior Court 4
    Type MC - Miscellaneous Criminal
    Filed 05/24/2019
    Status 05/24/2019 , Pending (active)
    Reference
    Prosecutor Case Management Number
    79-DM89329
    Police Agency Number
    LPD 19-7985
    Parties to the Case
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    Defendant Jasper, Talmadge Russell
    Description


    Male, White, 5' 11", 123 lbs.
    Address

    Case Summary

    State of Indiana v. RYAN A MARTIN
    Case Number 79D06-1811-CM-004998
    Court Tippecanoe Superior Court 6
    Type CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
    Filed 11/16/2018
    Status 11/30/2018 , Decided
    Reference
    Prosecutor Case Management Number
    79D06-DM84869
    Police Agency Number
    WLPD 18-4349
    Parties to the Case
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    Defendant MARTIN, RYAN A
    Description


    Male, White, 6' 0", 150 lbs.
    Address
     
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