IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #18

[cspring]

Never says "carried out". Says picked her up...and then went out.

im so confused. But thanks-i read it several times...idk-i think i was headed towards that when i decided to edit!. I really should take a break....but I cant.

 

[Walker]

If I didn't know better -- and sometimes I don't -- I'd suspect the "source" for this article could be a thin-skinned LE-type who has more "difficulty" with the victim's extended family & their prodding (read criticism) regarding landfill searches and other related matters than anything CR may/may not have said.

Neither the source nor the story indicate whether LS & CR were the sole occupants of the elevator. Was LS pushed or jostled by CR and/or others as she emerged from the elevator?

Next, I dispute Cohen's (Shawn Cohen, LoHud author of the article quoted above) conclusion that the clip, as described by his "source", necessarily "contradicts statements by friend Corey Rossman's lawyer [that] Spierer helped his client walk home" for the simple fact of video evidence which already confirms both LS and CR were ambulatory enough to "walk" the "few hundred yards" between Smallwood and 5 North minutes after LS was allegedly "unable to stand up on her own."

Otherwise, I see little probative value in such leaks but a bully's opportunity to intimidate family critics, i.e., Diss us? Smear you! under the pretext of doubting CR's account.

Also, from that same hit piece:

"She comes stumbling out of the elevator, trips several times toward the corner of the lobby, where she comes to rest in the corner of the lobby, falls to her knees and leans against the wall for support until a male companion comes to her aid, gathers her under his arm and escorts out of the front of the building," the source said. "That whole sequence lasts less than 60 seconds."

 

[bx2]

Hope everyone keeps it up, I drive past this every day, and still get a lil inspiration.

 

[Inspector Gidget]

bx2

For some reason,I think we are getting closer to the truth.Different theories,but they will
all come together

 

[phantomthought]

I fail to see any reason for anyone to want a dead body found on the street. The police obviously would be trying to back track where the body came from. So what would be accomplished by dumping a body on the street?

It is not that you want it rather it is better for them to find her OD body which proves you did not kill her than to be the last one to see her alive which makes you the most likely person to have killed her.Dead body or missing person the police were going to backtrack I would rather them be asking me if I gave her drugs rather than if I killed her.

 

[jjenny]

I really don't understand the logic of it. If the body is found on the street, police can do a tox screen and determine the cause of death. So what difference does it make if the body is found on the street or somewhere else? The cause of death stays the same.

 

[Inspector Gidget]

IC 35-42-1-1
Murder
Sec. 1. A person who:
(1) knowingly or intentionally kills another human being;
(2) kills another human being while committing or attempting to commit arson, burglary, child molesting, consumer product tampering, criminal deviate conduct, kidnapping, rape, robbery, human trafficking, promotion of human trafficking, sexual trafficking of a minor, or carjacking;
(3) kills another human being while committing or attempting to commit:
(A) dealing in or manufacturing cocaine or a narcotic drug (IC 35-48-4-1);
(B) dealing in or manufacturing methamphetamine (IC 35-48-4-1.1);
(C) dealing in a schedule I, II, or III controlled substance (IC 35-48-4-2);
(D) dealing in a schedule IV controlled substance (IC

35-48-4-3); or
(E) dealing in a schedule V controlled substance; or
(4) knowingly or intentionally kills a fetus that has attained viability (as defined in IC 16-18-2-365);
commits murder, a felony.

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar42/ch1.html

 

[looking-4-lauren]

I don't remember it that way, but I'm too tired to dig for the interview tonight. I remember being struck by HT's disdain for CR and her admiration of JW, though.

Here's the interview I think you are referring to: [video=youtube;Vnr8XuKoWCI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnr8XuKoWCI[/video]

HT is quoted saying "...she was not doing anything with anyone else."

Is it me, or does this comment from HT come out of the blue...as in why does she even bring up the possibility that Lauren would be 'hooking up' with another guy? Unless I missed it, I did not hear the reporter ask it.

However, I do have reason to believe that her and Corey were more than just "friends." I learned this from a source who I will not name but will say was in Bloomington for summer classes and spent time with Lauren and has many mutual friends.

 

[cspring]

Ive been over reading on some new sites for a little while and all i can say is....wow....wth?
Im going to have nightmares for sure tonight. goodnite WS.

 

[Inspector Gidget]

Sorry I don't believe HT.She is protecting someone.Move the search out of Bloomington? She is also protecting her hide

 

[phantomthought]

I really don't understand the logic of it. If the body is found on the street, police can do a tox screen and determine the cause of death. So what difference does it make if the body is found on the street or somewhere else? The cause of death stays the same.

One thing is they find her body on the street it is pretty easy to argue she died on the walk home.If they find her body dumped somewhere they know the last person to see her alive put her their and had a reason for hiding her body.

 

[AnalyticalExaminer]

Why dispose of the body if there's an OD? Decomposition (or total disappearance) may eliminate cause of death (or the body) which may in turn eliminate a murder (or rape, even if that didn't happen) charge, for both POI(s) and perhaps the persons (drug operation) who told them what to do.

 

[cspring]

Anybody else read about a fire in martinsville a day or 2 b4 that search? I read it somewhere today-ive been so many places on my little phone! I just tried to Google it n found nothing. Does any1 know if this happened or not?
I couldnt sleep.

 

[Johneverett]

I think this is a pretty common thing. This girl is missing and there's a huge wave of sympathy and horror. People who know things or think they know things can't really say anything that might sound negative about her early on - it sounds mean to say bad things about her.

But time passes and the truth, such as people see it, comes out.

So what if she used a lot of drugs and did it often? What if she cheated on her boyfriend? [Not saying she did or didn't, just rhetorically asking] The people who love her will still love her but hiding what her life was like will not help find her. So I think it's good for people to stop being polite and fill in what they know so LE can get a better picture of what she may or may not do. You look at some of those photos of parties, crazy drinking, bars in people's mouths, how can you say that everyone she hung around with was like that except her? The fact is, though, she deserves to be found, regardless of if she drugged herself or if someone slipped her something.

I said it before - her parents sound sad and chastising of the friends, as opposed to anything else. They don't sound like they think the guys raped her. They just sound like they think the guy(s) know where she is and want her back.

In this, as in all things, the truth will set you free.

 

[Johneverett]

Recent rumors have really set this board abuzz.

Pants found by searchers
Searchers at Martinsville because of cell phone pinging

Eight billion posts later, I am not going to cite sources, but I think at some point it's been posted more than once that LE said all POI (that we know of - the big 4) have given DNA. So I think that makes sexual violence seem less likely. Seems unlikely to undress her while disposing of her body, so the pants thing seems random sounding to me.

If LE has evidence that someone who was allegedly in town at 4:30 was calling someone else from Martinsville, that seems tantalizing and after CA, I know that circumstantial cases are really tough to get a conviction on, but it does seem like they could be calling someone in for questioning if that rumor is true...I have no idea how long it takes to get that kind of info about pinging or when they got it but apparently instead of making them questions someone more, it just made them search in an area? But then again, it makes sense that if they believe she is in Martinsville they are not eager to search a landfill in Terre Haute.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Please continue here:

IN IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #19 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community