IN - Martinsville, WhtMale 517UMIN, sign 'Stranded Hungry God Bless', Sep'98

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  1. anthrobones

    anthrobones New Member

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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/517umin.html

    Unidentified White Male

    • The victim was discovered on September 13, 1998 in northeast Morgan County, Indiana.
    • Estimated Date of Death: 3 - 5 weeks prior to discovery
    • Badly decomposed
    • Death cause: Blow to the head

    Vital Statistics

    • Estimated age: Possibly in his 30's
    • Approximate Height and Weight: Close to 6'0"; 170 lbs.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown shoulder-length hair with a reddish cast. He was bearded. His right shoulder had undergone surgery and was wired together.
    • Clothing: He was wearing a black biker/USA T-shirt with wings, an eagle and a flag on it and elastic-band shorts. He also had a Jemis watch and a sign that read "stranded hungry God Bless" with a smiley face.
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    T-Shirt and Watch

    Case History
    Area people believe they saw this man, with the sign in question at several highway locations around the Indianapolis area, including spots on State Road 37 around Martinsville.
    On September 13, 1998, a hunter discovered the badly decomposed body in a cornfield on Maple Grove Road in northeast Morgan County.
    He had been killed by a blow to the head. Since a watch was left on the body, officers do not believe robbery was the motive.
    He was buried on or about October 2, 1998, in Nutter Cemetery under the name "John Doe". According to the Sheriff, parts necessary for a possible reconstruction were kept.

     
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  3. anthrobones

    anthrobones New Member

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    bumping up
     
  4. Redwood146

    Redwood146 New Member

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    another bump......
     
  5. webrocket

    webrocket New Member

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    in 1998 "parts necessary for a possible reconstruction were kept".

    Nice that they thought ahead but it's been 13 years. are they going to get around to it? he's not in Namus either.
     
  6. Redwood146

    Redwood146 New Member

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    It was disappointing to only see the sign..... I too was hoping for a reconstruction to have been completed by now.
     
  7. RRW

    RRW New Member

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    Since the sign says that he was stranded it makes me think that he was far from home. I did some searching on Jemis watches and could not find a website. The information I did find was that it was a joint venture of Seiko Epson Group. These were made in Japan and a further search showed many websites in Russian (or at least Cyrillic based characters). I would presume if people had talked to this man, they would have remembered him having an accent, so it makes me think he was was far from home, since his sign mentioned he was stranded, but possibly a US citizen. I found a missing man from Alaska and a watch is mentioned. The height is off by a couple of inches, but he is pictured with facial hair and that could have eventually turned into a beard after he went missing if he was unable to shave.


    Steven Lee Harbaugh
    Missing since May 18, 1998 from Nenana, Alaska
    Classification: Endangered Missing

    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: November 15, 1962
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 35 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'10"; 165 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White male. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
    Jewelry: Watch

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Steven Harbaugh’s last known address was near Mile 298 Parks Highway, Nenana, Alaska.
    Family members have not had contact with Steven Lee Harbaugh since May 11, 1998.


    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    Alaska State Troopers
    Trooper Brian Wassmann
    907-269-5738

    Agency Case Number: 99-56909

    NCIC Number: M-410097005
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3271dmak.html
     
  8. Redwood146

    Redwood146 New Member

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    It does not mention whether Steve had surgery on his shoulder in the doe profile- then again doesnt mean that he didnt either.
     
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    Charles Robinson Davies III

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    Missing Since: April 19, 1993 from Atlantic Beach, Florida
    Classification: Missing
    Date Of Birth: April 19, 1969
    Age: 24 years old
    Height and Weight: 5'11, 200 pounds
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian male. Brown hair, brown eyes. Davies may use the alias Trip Hunter. He wears contact lenses or wire-framed eyeglasses. Davies has a scar on his right index finger, a vaccination scar on his left shoulder, shingles scars on his back and chest, and possible two circular scars on his right shoulderblade. His right shoulder has a previous rotator cup injury and one of his knees frequently swells up due to fluid accumulation. Davies is missing a left eyetooth and has had nasal polyps removed.
    Clothing/Jewelry Description: A black sports watch on his left wrist.

    Details of Disappearance
    Davies was last seen in the vicinity of the 1000 block of Atlantic Boulevard in Atlantic Beach, Florida on April 19, 1990, his twenty-fourth birthday. He has never been heard from again. In April 1994, a year after Davies vanished, his black 1992 Jeep Cherokee was found at an airport parking garage in the vicinity of the 2200 block of east Imperial Highway in El Segundo, California.
    El Segundo police are investigating Davies's case; some agencies state that he disappeared from there. Some agencies give the date of his disappearance as April 19, 1990.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/davies_charles.html
     
  10. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    I wish they said how much beard he had and how long he had been seen in the Indianapolis area. There's a mentally ill homeless man from Connecticut who went missing shortly before this man was found who's similar enough to the description that I wanted to bring him up for discussion.

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/4365dmct.html

    Steven Raymond was last seen July 28, 1998 in New Britain; his sleeping bag and other possessions were found at his sleep site. The UID is estimated to have died 3-5 weeks before he was found on Sept. 13, which would be mid to late August.

    Raymond older than the estimate at 47 but the other stats are in range if not quite spot on (and some inconsistency in the reports). He was clean-shaven at the time, so only had those few weeks to grow a beard, and he would have been in the Indianapolis area for at most a month or month and a half. He was also somewhat balding, which wasn't mentioned for the UID.

    He had had recent shoulder surgery. Says it's on the right. UID's is on left. I mistrust right and left in descriptions.

    Nothing different in any of the other sites:
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3302/57
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/raymond_steven.html
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/raymond_steven.html

    There's an article or two that I'm trying to track down but so far I've only found them in paid archives.
     
  11. jenstar

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    Carbuff I think Stephen Raymond is a GREAT possibility. I'd submit him if I were you.

    Something that irks me to no end is the sign: it said "stranded"..like he might have had a car or some other form of transportation and it didn't work out. It has a more "emotional" meaning to me than if he were just hitching a ride somewhere. IE "I can't believe Joe would just leave me, stranded here." There's no need to write a sign if you're underweight and looking for a ride..you stick out your thumb and hope for the best...

    If he were "stranded" it was by someone he knew. On a road trip together. perhaps? Someone took him and dumped him in that spot, and then came back to fight with him.
    JMHO
     
  12. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    It's a term that people often use when they're traveling and they run into some kind of problem that keeps them from going home. Like the family who had their passport scribbled on was stranded. So yeah, maybe a friend left him, or he lost his return ticket, or something.
     
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    Migmuu New Member

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    UP#14700

    DEMOGRAPHICS
    Age: 28 - 38 years old
    Race: Caucasian
    Sex: Male
    Height: Est. 72 inches (6’0)
    Weight: Est. 170 pounds
    Postmortem Interval: One month
    Body conditions: Not recognizable - decomposition/putrefaction

    CIRCUMSTANCES
    Date: September 13, 1998
    Location: Maple Grove Road, Martinsville, Morgan County, IN 46151
    On September 13, 1998, a hunter discovered the badly decomposed body in a cornfield on Maple Grove Road in northeast Morgan County. He had been killed by a blow to the head. Since a watch was left on the body, officers do not believe robbery was the motive. Area people believe they saw this man with his "stranded hungry God Bless" sign at several highway locations around the Indianapolis area, including spots on State Road 37 around Martinsville.

    PHYSICAL
    Hair: Reddish-brown, shoulder-length hair
    Surgical wire in right shoulder

    CLOTHING/ACCESSORIES
    Black biker T-shirt with an eagle and a flag. Elastic band shorts.
    Also had a Jemis watch and a sign that said “stranded hungry God Bless” with a smiley face on it.

    IDENTIFIERS
    Dentals: Unavailable
    DNA: Unavailable
    Fingerprints: Unavailable
     
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    webrocket New Member

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    This UID is now in Namus, no rule outs listed:

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/14700

    ETA: They have no identifiers for this UID. From the narrative they saved a few body parts. You'd think someone might open up the box and try to extract a DNA sample to try to identify him.
     
  15. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    They also have pics for the watch and the t-shirt.[​IMG][​IMG]

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
     
  17. MelmothTheLost

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    I would have thought they'd be able to get enough from the interior of the teeth, which being sealed from the outside elements tend to preserve the pulp quite well. If nothing else they could at least do the tooth isotopes. His shoulder length hair should also contain a history of his travels in those isotopes.
     
  18. NadirCake

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    From the NAMUS link:
    I looked up 'Jemis watch' and it came up with cheap $10-$20 watches. Assuming Jemis made watches in the same price range in 1998, I'm not sure a robber would bother with it. What would it get at a pawn shop? $5 at the very most?
     

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