In Touch article

Discussion in 'Jaycee Lee Dugard' started by Delrod, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. songline

    songline New Member

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    first of all GOD BLESS YOU - BLESS YOUR HEART :praying:

    You are right...there are things that do not get cured, one just learns how to live with it better.

    I think because she had 11 normal years she was able to be there for the 2 girls.
    the same thing will keep her going forward as she is relearning who she is, what she likes, what she wants etc....
    Will she ever be the girl she may have been if it did not happen. NO she won't. But like Elizabeth she will be lucky to afford much therapy, and much support.
    that does make a difference. And when she begins to have new stories to replace the old ones she will have other reference points.
    But the fear in her gut will always be there, no matter how safe.
    It will take much time....But she may turn it into a win for her and her girls.
    She is a hero.
     


  2. songline

    songline New Member

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    WOW! I used to teach this kind of thinking :blowkiss:
    I agree, but she is still living in a body with its limitations,
    It will take a long time before she can actually see what you see, because one need to learn
    how to look at things the way you do and there are some other major priorities for now.
     
  3. songline

    songline New Member

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    :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: GREAT POST.
     
  4. not_my_kids

    not_my_kids New Member

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    The things that Jaycee has going for her are very positive. Support from her family, seems like support from her community, the fact hat her attackers have been jailed, what I pray is top notch physical and psychological treatment.
    I'm not saying she can't recover, she can, but there is no guarantee that she will. The fact that she did have those 11 years of normalcy before and the fact that she has her girls still with her now, are very positive. Her chances are good, but I saw in the article the "family friend" saying that in a year or so when it goes to trial, she will be ready and want to testify. I can't bank on that, and it kinda pizzed me off, because they seem to be saying that within a year we can all expect that Jaycee will be completely healed, the past fully behind her. It doesn't work that fast, not even with a team of counselors. She will heal, but not that fast.
     
  5. songline

    songline New Member

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    Well...they are dealing with the media...The key is to make the media go away...
    that is when she begins to heal, that is when she can take baby steps out in public (disguised of course).
    It took Elizabeth Smart 6 years to go to trial.

    RELAX...You are right and it will take many years.

    Their job is to get rid of the tabloids, the media, and all the voyeurs.
    Don't get pizzed off....It is not good for you :)
     
  6. my2sisters

    my2sisters New Member

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    Jaycee developed a talent, on her own, as a graphic artist and printer. She was able to keep her right brain organized and creative. We've had many accounts from people that have met her and said she was very professional and sweet. Carl Probyn said that her personality is what saved her. It will continue to save her as she heals. IMO
     
  7. kbl8201

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    of course this is going to take a long process for to heal. but i dont get what i sse as some people here having a negative outlook to it. jaycee survived for 18 years in that living hell and she didnt end up in an insane asylum. she perservered for the sake of her kids. her kids are with her now. her real family is with her now. she has tons of support from them and from many people she's never even met (like us).. like you said, she has professional talent that she developed while this was going on.
    i think her future is bright
     
  8. not_my_kids

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    i don't really have a negative outlook, it's more of a reserved positive attitude. I do believe that she will heal. I am just leaving myself open for possibility that she may not. I believe that she can, whether she will is ultimately up to her.
    I think it's good that she has her girls with her, and the support system will be tremendously helpful. But, in order to survive in that type of environment, there is a part of a person that has to be shut down. Turning it back on is scary and painful and a lot of work.
    She has a professional talent, yes. That she may never wish to have anything to do with again, since it may also have been an escape technique for her. We hear reports, but it tells us nothing of what's going on inside her soul. And that's not for me to say, I make general statements based on what I have been told through the past 11 years of therapy. So, no, I don't feel that she has a bleak outlook, it has just been irritating me to hear so many people talk about how well she's healing (when they have no idea either), or try to put a time frame on it (like in the InTouch article.)
     
  9. kbl8201

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    all very solid points. and i dont pretend to know whats going on in her mind or soul. i just think the fact that she has that support system around her will help her get thru the pain she has to go thru now.
     
  10. songline

    songline New Member

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    HERE IS A THREAD FOR YOU...
    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90198"]People Magazine's Statement from Jaycee - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
     
  11. Billylee

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    Great post! Let's not forget that Jaycee's biggest "mark", that she will never be able to get away from, is her children. Now, I'm not saying she'd want to, ever.....and, in fact, it could very well be that through maternal instincts, they were indeed her salvation and gave her hope and kept her alive. What I'm saying is that, unlike most other cases where the victim did not have the perp's children, no matter how much she heals and tries to distance herself from him and the pain he caused her, she will always have to deal with the fact that her children are Phillip's offspring. I personally think that this is the hardest thing she will (or anyone would) ever have to deal with mentally and I hope and pray for her that she can somehow come to terms with it all and somehow leave it all behind. I can't imagine what she is starting to go through....trying to sort it all out in her mind....I truly wish the media would just leave her alone for at least the next 15 years or so. :praying:
     
  12. kbl8201

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    i think the fact that she saw them every day for the last 11 to 15 years and she still was connected to them is a huge point in the right direction. i dont think she looks at them and sees him. i think she looks at them and sees herself.
    jmo
     
  13. not_my_kids

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    I wish she would be left alone too, but maybe she doesn't feel the same. With the statement and photo in People slated to drop tomorrow morning, I'll hold off on anything further. She may be ready, and if she really is, that is great, as it shows a lack of shame on her part, which I fear would be one of her biggest stumbling blocks. I'll wait until then, if she is ready to face the media and speak to the public, then I have nothing to say on the subject. She has to decide when she's ready, and if she's ready now, then anything that I can say is 100% moot.

    ETA: Except to say congratulations, that wouldn't be moot. And if she is ready, then all I can do is congratulate her.
     
  14. kbl8201

    kbl8201 Former Member

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    think her satement is in writing but it's a statement all the same. a big step foward.
     
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    respectfully bolded by me, for emphasis

    I really hope that is the case:) There are a lot of people who have very mixed feelings, and sometimes incredible animosity towards the other bio parent of their children, and, unfortunately, I think it's safe to say that in history, there have been children born to rape victims. I also think it's safe to say many, all hopefully, mothers loved them despite their violent conception. That being said, I was decidedly relieved when my son did not resemble his bio father :) (which was not rape, just to be super clear)
     
  16. kbl8201

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    i think the bigger problem for jaycee, was the fear her mom and stepdad wouldnt accept her girls. her first words to terry (after jaycee confirmed her idenetity to her) were "hi mom i have babies' and she said the same thing to carl too.
     
  17. smart blonde

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    What you see, and state, as Jaycee's "biggest mark, that she will never be able to get away from, is her children".....

    ..... Jaycee and family, no doubt in my mind, see Jaycee's children as her biggest blessing, that she would never want to be away from. Those girls are her children. They are her mother's grandchildren, her aunt's nieces.

    They are part of Jaycee. They came from Jaycee. How could they be viewed by Jaycee or Jaycee's family with anything but love?

    That family lost one member 18 years ago, but by the grace of God, they recovered that family member, plus two more. I doubt at this point they feel anything but blessed to have Jaycee, and yes, her children, home.

    I am a mother. I can't imagine feeling anything less.
     
  18. smart blonde

    smart blonde Websleuths Member

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    I completely agree. I think she looks at them and see's them for who they are... her children.
     
  19. kbl8201

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    awesome post. while i did mention i think jaycee feared her parents reaction, it was unfounded......
     
  20. not_my_kids

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    Yeah, i know. Hear, read, I guess online it's all the same.
     

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