Interim discussion regarding questions from the jury and Arias on the stand #82

Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by Harmony 2, Mar 11, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Harmony 2

    Harmony 2 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

    Messages:
    9,906
    Likes Received:
    1,254
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Continue discussion here:

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Loading...


  3. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

    Messages:
    53,159
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Continue discussing the trial here:

    thread #1
    thread #2
    thread #3
    thread #4
    thread #5
    thread #6
    thread #7
    thread #8
    thread #9
    thread #10
    thread #11
    thread #12
    thread #13
    thread #14
    thread #15
    thread #16
    thread #17
    thread #18
    thread #19
    thread #20
    thread #21
    thread #22
    thread #23
    thread #24
    thread #25
    thread #26
    thread #27
    thread #28
    thread #29
    THREAD #30
    thread #31
    thread #32
    thread #33
    thread #34
    thread #35
    thread #36
    thread #37
    thread #38
    thread #39
    thread #40
    thread #41
    thread #42
    thread #43
    thread #44
    thread #45
    thread #46
    thread #47
    thread #48
    thread # 49
    thread #50
    thread #51
    thread #52
    thread #53
    thread #54
    thread #55
    thread #56
    thread #57
    thread #58
    thread #59
    thread #60
    thread #61
    thread #62
    thread #63
    thread #64
    thread #65
    thread #66
    thread #67
    thread #68
    thread #69
    thread #70
    thread #71
    thread #72
    thread #73
    thread #74
    thread #75
    thread #76
    thread #77
    thread #78
    thread #79
    thread #80
    thread #81



    timeline and media *no discussion* thread


    Links to live media coverage:


    http://www.kpho.com/
    http://www.azfamily.com/
    http://www.hlntv.com/shows/insession
    https://www.facebook.com/InSession
    https://twitter.com/InSession
    https://twitter.com/search?q=#jodiarias&src=typd
    https://twitter.com/WildaboutTrial2

    timeline by poster rmt:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...dFl4X1V3YkZXazU0X25pQndhNVVmb Xc&output=html


    POLL Thread

    COURT DOCKET (click case history and enter Jodi Arias)


    ask your legal questions here and our verified attorneys will give an answer:

    Jodi Arias Legal Question and Answer Thread *no discussion* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


    Websleuths chat:
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    discuss the receipts and checks here:
    Arias Trial; Compare the receipts and the monetary transactions - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    justice for Travis ribbon:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30042&d=1361466019


    __________________________________________________ __________

    [video=youtube;Q07NxRGYfSg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q07NxRGYfSg[/video]

    __________________________________________________ __________


    Travis Victor Alexander
    July 28, 1977 - June 4, 2008
    http://i46.tinypic.com/96kyhj.png

    Summary of case and key dates:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2387245.html
    Crime Scene Photographs:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2412031.html
    Detective's Investigative Report:
    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...tionreport.pdf
    Autopsy Report:
    http://cnninsession.files.wordpress....visautopsy.pdf


    BLOGS AND MYSPACE
    Travis' blog: http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/
    Travis' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander
    Defendants' blog: http://jodiarias.blogspot.com/
    Defendants' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias
    Defendants' other myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jfineart

    WS MEMBER RMT's TIMELINE
    https://sites.google.com/site/jodiariastrial/
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hNVVmbXc&gid=0

    MARICOPA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT
    Jodi Ann Arias DOB 7/1980
    Public Access to Criminal Court Case Information
    Case History, Case# CR2008-031021
    Criminal Court Case History
    Minute Entries, Case# CR2008031021
    Clerk of the Superior Court Minute Entries

    MEDIA COVERAGE
    ABC15 Jodi Arias Murder Trial
    ABCNews Jodi Arias
    CBSNews Crimesider
    CNN (HLN) show transcripts
    FOX10News Jodi Arias Trial
    HLNtv Jodi Arias
    Huff Post Jodi Arias
    KPHO Jodi Arias

    FACEBOOK
    Beth Karas InSession
    David Lohr
    In Session
    In Memory of Travis Alexander
    JaneVelezMitchellHLN
    Justice4Travis
    NancyGraceHLN

    TWITTER
    #TravisAlexander
    #JodiArias
    #Arias
    @ABC
    @BethKaras
    @chriswnews
    @courtpio
    @David_Lohr
    @InSession
    @jvelezmitchell
    @maryellenabc15
    @michaelbkiefer
    @NancyGraceHLN
    @shannahogan
    @VinniePolitan

    TRIAL LIVE STREAMING
    Trial starts at 10:30am MST (GMT -7:00) (12:30pm EST)
    http://www.abc15.com/generic/news/re...al-Live-video-
    http://www.azfamily.com/home/Watch-L...185415702.html
    http://www.azcentral.com/live/?event...di-arias-trial
    http://www.kpho.com/category/224303/...live-streaming
    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...al-livestream/
    http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jodi-arias-live-stream.html

    __________________________________________________ ______________

    Legal thread: leave a question and get an answer

    __________________________________________________ ______________

    timeline and media thread

    __________________________________________________ _______________

    Rule Reminders:

    1) Keep the religious debate off of the thread please.

    2) Do NOT call names or otherwise bash the defense team.

    3) NO OFF COLOR OR SEXUAL JOKES PLEASE- which would include sexual innuendo using the word 'skank' and restroom humor

    4) if you have a problem with a post use the ALERT BUTTON (do not respond)

     
  4. paperwing

    paperwing New Member

    Messages:
    1,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Thanks, LizardQueen74, for filling that in preceding the texts.

    Great minds think alike! The long post is from my entire post verbatim (including/starting with my words in parentheses questioning the date of April '08) - I transcribed these from screenshots.

    My guess is others have transcribed parts of these texts too - but this happens to be the one I did. It caused quite a stir at first - all I did was transcribe these from screenshots in the media/timeline thread - they aren't hidden away, I just put them together here - and thankfully you provided more context!

    Was yours from a screenshot as well? :)
     
  5. panthera

    panthera Retired WS Staff

    Messages:
    26,409
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Good evening everyone! :seeya:

    Watching NG.....she is replaying JA direct testimony.
     
  6. BritsKate

    BritsKate Past mistakes should teach you to create a wonderf

    Messages:
    5,882
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I personally prefer psychopath but most people think its two separate species. Psychopath's Mama was actually known as Sociopath. Its roots go back to a French researcher in 1801 and was called moral insanity for the better part of a century with few variations. It was first called sociopathy in 1909 which would be used by the APA for the DSM in 1952. The next edition dropped the term. ;)

    Every researcher has their pet theory as to differences, if any, though. I think the broadened classification is a really good idea - it blends all the knowns of psychopathic and antisocial behaviors without the exclusion of psychopathic features in the DSM-IV which has only led to many assuming psychopathy isn't valid; ASPD is a required diagnosis for psychopathy; or, even worse, that ASPD is the very same thing.

    Having been in a relationship with a bona fide comorbid ASPD/NPD (and likely psychopathic according to my armchair analysis) the only thing that scares me is these creatures walking the earth free of accountability. To me that particular chemistry is a bomb just waiting to explode.
    ------------
    Schuby,
    I'm unable to quote you - thread's closed. Sociopathic and psychopathic are basically (very close) cousins to antisocial personality disorder. A therapeutic psychologist would likely make that diagnosis - or a comorbidity of that and other personality disorders - rather than even a muttering of sociopathy or psychopathy.

    There is a huge debate, even within the psych circle itself, if there even is a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath. For me personally, there isn't, and I simply prefer psychopath because of the negative image it conjures for many. People need to think Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy if doing so keeps them from becoming a victim to a cruel, cold-blooded predator very capable of destroying a person and totally ruining their life - if not actually physically taking it. IYKWIM
     
  7. Schuby

    Schuby Under the thumb of The Man

    Messages:
    3,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well, one nice thing about this short trial week, at least we're all getting our housework done.
     
  8. panthera

    panthera Retired WS Staff

    Messages:
    26,409
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And for those of us who work during trial hours, catching up on missed testimony!

    :D
     
  9. katiedid2

    katiedid2 New Member

    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Someone from the other thread asked me
    Hey Katydid2. I have never seen anyone else with this nickname. My beloved grandma used to call me 'Katydid' when I was a little girl. You too?
    __________________
    Yes me too ! Absolutely
     
  10. Schuby

    Schuby Under the thumb of The Man

    Messages:
    3,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Good point about your preference for "psycho" over "sociopath." Great info.
     
  11. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

    Messages:
    47,541
    Likes Received:
    1,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yup. I just rewatched her little story about catching TA with the lil boy pictures. I laughed out loud when she said that part about ' the picture fell in that chaotic way that falling papers do, and landed at my feet. ' What a load of BS. :liar:
     
  12. paperwing

    paperwing New Member

    Messages:
    1,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Same here...

    WHY - for goodness sake, did JA say she wasn't sure if she HAD to act in self-defense? It was only a few minutes ago, but I forgot her exact words, but this is what she said.

    If she felt that way, it sort of knocks her defense off a cliff, doesn't it? I wish I knew what day this testimony was from - I'd go review the video...

    If she questions her justification, the jury sure ought to.
     
  13. LizardQueen74

    LizardQueen74 New Member

    Messages:
    671
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes, was looking at pics in from the "Tabularasa6's Library" and it was of Jodi and this loooong text. I recognized the bulk of it as having been what I've seen floating around...but for some reason I had never seen those first few sentences (I don't think).

    I know I had never seen Michelle K or Elena mentioned before. I put the (?) in there as it wasn't quite discernible. So, to be clear, the (?) was put in there by me and not TA.

    Anyone know or heard mention of Michelle K or Elena? Not sure I've heard their names or how they fit into the puzzle.
     
  14. Schuby

    Schuby Under the thumb of The Man

    Messages:
    3,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    BritsKate, would you say most people diagnosed with personality disorders are candidates for the diagnosis of psychopathy, or just those with ASPD?
     
  15. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    11,710
    Likes Received:
    2,095
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hello Harmony,
    I know this has been asked before but I dont think I understood the answer.

    Is there some reason why a different thread gets created ? Does the system this forum runs on have trouble after too many posts or something? We have seen it work past 100 pages on some threads so just wondering why after only 50-60 pages on the last thread that we had to build another one?

    Just wondering if there is some reason for this.

    I know having one each day for the trial made it kind of nice to keep track of the trial days.

    EDIT....Meant pages so corrected
     
  16. katiedid2

    katiedid2 New Member

    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Watching nancy grace
    She hesitates and makes things up as she goes! Her atty leads her! And she improvises.
    They are playing the video of her atty questioning her about more an al sex! After her baptism.
     
  17. Truth Detector

    Truth Detector Your Humble Observer

    Messages:
    5,391
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Nearsighted JA had no problem seeing it, even without corrective lenses... [​IMG]
     
  18. panthera

    panthera Retired WS Staff

    Messages:
    26,409
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Also her answer to Nurmi about her intention to do what she did to Travis on June 4, saying that things just happened that way (paraphrased). She NEVER has explained exactly what he was doing that she was in fear of her life from. She has admitted being the one who grabbed the gun and the knife.

    :furious:
     
  19. GoodGurl

    GoodGurl New Member

    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm repeating since I think I got lost in the move from the last thread...

    Does anyone have a link to a whole-house floor plan? I am reading Det Flores report, and he indicates that at least one if not both of the roommates had rooms upstairs by Travis? (Google is only giving me the master floor plan...)
     
  20. paperwing

    paperwing New Member

    Messages:
    1,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Thanks - again! I haven't heard them mentioned either... It's really frustrating - I guess I got spoiled by FL's sunshine laws in that we had everything to pick through.

    I don't understand why all of the texts are from Travis' phone only (guess JA 'lost' hers - but it was found in 2010), his computer only (the contents of hers being 'sealed' - what's up with that?)

    It makes it a lot harder to piece things together... Glad you found that.
     
  21. Schuby

    Schuby Under the thumb of The Man

    Messages:
    3,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I guess what I'm asking is, do you think the various personality disorders, as they are identified, are just a way of parsing the broader disorder of psychopathy?
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice