Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by Harmony 2, Mar 11, 2013.
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Travis Victor Alexander
July 28, 1977 - June 4, 2008
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Thanks, LizardQueen74, for filling that in preceding the texts.
Great minds think alike! The long post is from my entire post verbatim (including/starting with my words in parentheses questioning the date of April '08) - I transcribed these from screenshots.
My guess is others have transcribed parts of these texts too - but this happens to be the one I did. It caused quite a stir at first - all I did was transcribe these from screenshots in the media/timeline thread - they aren't hidden away, I just put them together here - and thankfully you provided more context!
Was yours from a screenshot as well?
Good evening everyone! :seeya:
Watching NG.....she is replaying JA direct testimony.
I personally prefer psychopath but most people think its two separate species. Psychopath's Mama was actually known as Sociopath. Its roots go back to a French researcher in 1801 and was called moral insanity for the better part of a century with few variations. It was first called sociopathy in 1909 which would be used by the APA for the DSM in 1952. The next edition dropped the term.
Every researcher has their pet theory as to differences, if any, though. I think the broadened classification is a really good idea - it blends all the knowns of psychopathic and antisocial behaviors without the exclusion of psychopathic features in the DSM-IV which has only led to many assuming psychopathy isn't valid; ASPD is a required diagnosis for psychopathy; or, even worse, that ASPD is the very same thing.
Having been in a relationship with a bona fide comorbid ASPD/NPD (and likely psychopathic according to my armchair analysis) the only thing that scares me is these creatures walking the earth free of accountability. To me that particular chemistry is a bomb just waiting to explode.
I'm unable to quote you - thread's closed. Sociopathic and psychopathic are basically (very close) cousins to antisocial personality disorder. A therapeutic psychologist would likely make that diagnosis - or a comorbidity of that and other personality disorders - rather than even a muttering of sociopathy or psychopathy.
There is a huge debate, even within the psych circle itself, if there even is a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath. For me personally, there isn't, and I simply prefer psychopath because of the negative image it conjures for many. People need to think Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy if doing so keeps them from becoming a victim to a cruel, cold-blooded predator very capable of destroying a person and totally ruining their life - if not actually physically taking it. IYKWIM
Well, one nice thing about this short trial week, at least we're all getting our housework done.
And for those of us who work during trial hours, catching up on missed testimony!
Someone from the other thread asked me
Hey Katydid2. I have never seen anyone else with this nickname. My beloved grandma used to call me 'Katydid' when I was a little girl. You too?
Yes me too ! Absolutely
Good point about your preference for "psycho" over "sociopath." Great info.
Yup. I just rewatched her little story about catching TA with the lil boy pictures. I laughed out loud when she said that part about ' the picture fell in that chaotic way that falling papers do, and landed at my feet. ' What a load of BS. :liar:
WHY - for goodness sake, did JA say she wasn't sure if she HAD to act in self-defense? It was only a few minutes ago, but I forgot her exact words, but this is what she said.
If she felt that way, it sort of knocks her defense off a cliff, doesn't it? I wish I knew what day this testimony was from - I'd go review the video...
If she questions her justification, the jury sure ought to.
Yes, was looking at pics in from the "Tabularasa6's Library" and it was of Jodi and this loooong text. I recognized the bulk of it as having been what I've seen floating around...but for some reason I had never seen those first few sentences (I don't think).
I know I had never seen Michelle K or Elena mentioned before. I put the (?) in there as it wasn't quite discernible. So, to be clear, the (?) was put in there by me and not TA.
Anyone know or heard mention of Michelle K or Elena? Not sure I've heard their names or how they fit into the puzzle.
BritsKate, would you say most people diagnosed with personality disorders are candidates for the diagnosis of psychopathy, or just those with ASPD?
I know this has been asked before but I dont think I understood the answer.
Is there some reason why a different thread gets created ? Does the system this forum runs on have trouble after too many posts or something? We have seen it work past 100 pages on some threads so just wondering why after only 50-60 pages on the last thread that we had to build another one?
Just wondering if there is some reason for this.
I know having one each day for the trial made it kind of nice to keep track of the trial days.
EDIT....Meant pages so corrected
Watching nancy grace
She hesitates and makes things up as she goes! Her atty leads her! And she improvises.
They are playing the video of her atty questioning her about more an al sex! After her baptism.
Nearsighted JA had no problem seeing it, even without corrective lenses...
Also her answer to Nurmi about her intention to do what she did to Travis on June 4, saying that things just happened that way (paraphrased). She NEVER has explained exactly what he was doing that she was in fear of her life from. She has admitted being the one who grabbed the gun and the knife.
I'm repeating since I think I got lost in the move from the last thread...
Does anyone have a link to a whole-house floor plan? I am reading Det Flores report, and he indicates that at least one if not both of the roommates had rooms upstairs by Travis? (Google is only giving me the master floor plan...)
Thanks - again! I haven't heard them mentioned either... It's really frustrating - I guess I got spoiled by FL's sunshine laws in that we had everything to pick through.
I don't understand why all of the texts are from Travis' phone only (guess JA 'lost' hers - but it was found in 2010), his computer only (the contents of hers being 'sealed' - what's up with that?)
It makes it a lot harder to piece things together... Glad you found that.
I guess what I'm asking is, do you think the various personality disorders, as they are identified, are just a way of parsing the broader disorder of psychopathy?
Separate names with a comma.