Interview w/ John Ramsey

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  1. candy

    candy Inactive

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    http://www.detnews.com/2004/editorial/0403/14/a18-90821.htm

    Sunday, March 14, 2004

    John Ramsey leans toward becoming high-profile candidate for Michigan House

    By George Weeks / The Detroit News

    Businessman John Ramsey of Charlevoix undoubtedly will be this year’s highest-profile candidate for the Michigan House of Representatives.


    -Just an opinon-
     
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  3. SisterSocks

    SisterSocks What a wild and crazy trip its been

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    Candy ---this just blows my mind. I guess what surprised the most, is that the article named his Wife as the owning a business???

    Socks

    Thanks for the link =)
     
  4. candy

    candy Inactive

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    In spite of the blurb Mr. Weeks quoted from Ramseys own book, here's the truth about John Ramsey's suspect status from Chief Beckner's deposition. (and it also puts lie to the BDI garbage)

    17 Q So from start to today, you have not

    18 classified any individual as a suspect?

    19 A Publicly, correct.

    20 Q Or otherwise?

    21 A That's not accurate.

    22 Q How is it inaccurate?

    23 A Internally John and Patsy are considered

    24 suspects.

    25 Q Both of them?

    64

    1 A Yes.

    2 Q Are considered to have probably been

    3 involved in the death of their daughter?

    4 A Probability, yes.

    5 Q Has anyone else ever attained that status

    6 of probably involved?

    7 A No.


    -Just an opinion
     
  5. Shylock

    Shylock Former Member

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    Somebody please forward this to whomever is running against John Ramsey!
    Murder suspects running for public office....sheeesh, what next.
     
  6. BrotherMoon

    BrotherMoon Former Member

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    John Ramsey had nothing to do with the death of his daughter. Let him run, let him prove his worthiness, and may the increase in exposure create a tripwire for Patsy.
     
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    Thanks for info/url...IMHO while reading the article, flashes of "being bought & sold" and "a puppet on a string" entertained my thoughts FWIW...LOL
     
  8. Blazeboy3

    Blazeboy3 Inactive

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    Interesting thought...but when John married Patsy ... did the two not become ONE? ;)
     
  9. BlueCrab

    BlueCrab New Member

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    Candy,

    By Colorado law, Burke cannot be referred to as a suspect or probably involved by Beckner, or Keenan, nor anyone else of authority in Boulder, which might be implied that Burke killed JonBenet. Burke is protected by his age at the time of the crime, which was nine. Officially, in Colorado it's as if no crime had occurred if the perp is under 10 years old. Burke made it by four weeks.

    IMO Burke was lucky he lived in Colorado at the time. Twenty seven states have no minimum age for a child to be tried criminally as an adult. The remainder of the states have minimum ages ranging from 15 in Louisiana down to 7 years old in New York.

    JMO
     
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    candy Inactive

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    5 Q Has anyone else ever attained that status

    6 of probably involved?

    7 A No.
     
  11. Toth

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    He can not be prosecuted or adjudged a juvenile delinquent in need of supervision, but the cops and DA could say in reference to anyone who was then nine years old 'he did it'. They just can't say 'he did it and he is under arrest for it'. If he had been ten, they could have said 'he did it' and when brought to court he will be referred to as 'The Juvenile alleged to be in need of supervision'' in all court papers.

    but all this tiresome Burke Did It stuff is not only nonsense its off topic. What does it have to do with John Ramsey running for public office in Michigan?
     
  12. BlueCrab

    BlueCrab New Member

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    Candy,

    Beckner had to say "no". If he had said "yes" it would have made Burke an "internal" suspect who was PROBABLY involved in the death of JonBenet. That would violate the law and the court's protective order covering Burke.

    Beckner and Keenan are forced to do a lot of broken field running to try to answer questions about Burke and in the same breath protect his anonymous identity as a child under 10 years old at the time of the crime.

    In such instances it is perfectly legal to lie under oath in order to follow the law and a court order protecting a minor's identity. Beckner had no choice but to say "no".

    JMO
     
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    Toth Inactive

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    Your interpretation of the law regarding perjury is very interesting. I do so hope that if you are ever testifying under oath you gain a better understanding prior to giving your testimony. If you don't you are likely going to have seven years to study the matter.
     
  14. candy

    candy Inactive

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    Right on Toth!
     
  15. Kim Ii

    Kim Ii New Member

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    I agree with Toth on this one, Blue...sorry. Under no circumstances, EVER...is it permissable to lie under oath...
     
  16. BlueCrab

    BlueCrab New Member

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    I agree. But you are looking at the academic interpretation of perjury. In the real world, in such matters as laws protecting the identity of children, national security matters, etc., a lie can be the lesser of two evils and will be forgiven by the court.

    IMO Beckner was caught between a rock and a hard place. If he had said "yes" the next question would have been "who". He would have violated a court protective order because the only other known person in the house that night was Burke, and at least one of those three Ramseys had to have been involved in the murder. So he said "no", John and Patsy were the only two "internal" suspects. Beckner would have violated the law if he answered 'yes" and would have violated the law if he answered "no".

    JMO
     
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    Nehemiah Active Member

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    Socks, the article said "co-owned by his wife".

    IMO
     
  18. Kim Ii

    Kim Ii New Member

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    Sorry, Blue, in the "real" world, perjury's perjury, period. I used to work as a Legal Assistant for years (litigation). My hubby, a lawyer, has also stated that perjury is against the law, no matter what the circumstances...

    Seems to me you're trying to twist the law to suit your theory regarding this case. I've re-read all of the books on this case, all of the info. I could glean on the Internet, and I've turned myself around on the BDI theory. Burke was never, ever, considered a suspect, by Steve Thomas or anyone else, and that includes those that feel the family had something to do with JonBenet's death. He's never been considered a suspect...I think it's time to lay to rest the Burke did it theory. Sorry Blue...
     
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    New Interview with John Ramsey

    http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/news-12/107937654350750.xml

    AP Interview: John Ramsey says he wants to give back to community

    By JOHN FLESHER
    The Associated Press
    3/15/2004, 1:59 p.m. ET

    CHARLEVOIX, Mich. (AP) — John Ramsey says he is seriously considering a campaign for the Michigan House and hopes voters will focus on his ideas and experience, rather than the unsolved murder of his daughter JonBenet.
     
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    Sure they will.............sure...... just like they focused on Gary Condit's ideas and experience, rather than the unsolved murder of Chandra Levy....and HE actually had ideas AND experience!
     
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    John might look kinda funny sitting in one of these in the House chambers.

    imo
     

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