Interview with the two boys has been cancelled

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  1. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    The only reason I can come up with to explain why DB won't let the boys be interviewed is because she knows the truth will be exposed and she and JI with both go to prison. I think she is hiding domestic violence.

    JMO
     


  2. eve

    eve New Member

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    I have been following along and not commenting, but wanted to say, neglect and negligence somewhat different legally. Negligence is a term in civil tort actions, primarily -- failure to exercise duty of care -- standard will be "reasonable man" standard and causation (re: harm) must be established. So many questions in this case. Hard for me to understand their not allowing questioning of boys if they have no culpability. I am sure lawyer is in agreement and perhaps insisting on this. Why? What do boys know? Or - did boy/s do something? I hate to go there, but...parents are protecting someone and hiding something.

    Eve
     
  3. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    Joe T. can't force his clients to take his advice but he can drop clients who don't take his advice and I'm guessing that's also in the works.

    JMO
     
  4. Cher352

    Cher352 Well-Known Member

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    Carl Cornwell, a well-known defense attorney who has worked with Short on high-profile cases comments on Short's removal from case.

    Cornwell said it appears Short and Tacopina disagreed about whether the two boys, Lisa's half -brothers, should be re-interviewed by police.

    "That is a direct, strategical conflict," said Cornwell​

    Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...ing-parents-off-lisa-irwin-case#ixzz1c7cxuCAM
     
  5. Boodles

    Boodles Well-Known Member

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    OK, then the local attorney is "no longer on the case" - is that better? There's always a lead attorney. And he calls the shots, regardless of how they get spinned for the public.
     
  6. Scamperoo

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    Sorry didn't mean to upset you, just giving a link to a direct quote from CW to the Star....
     
  7. grandmaj

    grandmaj Former Member

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    Oh please don't tell me he has an audience with the Pope. Please? :silly:
     
  8. CHICANA

    CHICANA Well-Known Member

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    They were interviewed right after Lisa went missing, when everything was still fresh in their minds. I'm not sure talking to them now will even be beneficial. At their ages I don't think their memories will be very accurate after this period of time. The experts didn't feel it was necessary to question them longer than 30-50 minutes when they had the chance.

    Leaving the boys with their parents is not protecting the parents.
    If DB isn't involved in this mess, IMO, whoever takes those little boys from all that's familiar and sticks them with strangers will be guilty of abuse.
     
  9. CHICANA

    CHICANA Well-Known Member

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    In the video of DB talking to Lisa, she didn't appear unresponsive or dismissive.
    People who know them better alot better than we do
    said they were excellent parents.
     
  10. PlainJaneDoe

    PlainJaneDoe Verified expert in neuroscience

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    luvbeaches New Member

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    Sure it is. I'm not talking about having a glass of wine or two, or even getting drunk, I am talking about getting so hammered that you black out. If a child is injured or killed because of your neglect, then she can be charged with child abuse. It's no different than leaving the kids at home alone and something happened to them. If she was blacked out she couldn't care for them. It's neglect. She couldn't help them if the house caught fire ... of course, she would have probably died in the fire if she was blacked out.

    Had she just said she slept though the night and heard nothing that would be different, but she said she was so drunk she blacked out. WTG, Debbie. I still think she's going to face charges over this.

    I know someone that almost faced criminal charges because their child accidentally died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. What couldn't be proven was if the gun was left loaded or if the child loaded the gun.

    If we are to believe that baby Lisa was stolen from the night from her crib, and I don't, it would have been nice if her mom wasn't blacked out from her "adult time." Poor baby didn't stand a chance.

    What do you think LE would do if they were called to the house and found Debbie unconscious from drinking? At the very least the kids would be removed and placed in foster care. And she could face charges. I think LE is dancing around this right now because they want to find Lisa.
     
  12. cluciano63

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    LE may have many more questions now, after several weeks of investigating and at the least, they should be able to do the simple DNA swabs, which is not a traumatic thing to have done, just a two-second cotton swab. Sure LE could probably obtain their DNA in another way, i.e toothbrush, etc. but it may be crucial to be sure whose DNA is whose, we don't know.
     
  13. frankie069

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    DB is uninvolved and detached now.. and dismissive of this whole ordeal. That is neglect. I dont care who said what before hand. I am talking about how she is now. Anyone can ACT like a great parent in front of people but then your true colors have to come out eventually and I think hers have come out in public for all to see.
     
  14. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps instead of knowing Lisa is dead, the parents know full well she is alive. They have to know one way or the other, IMO, or they would be far more desperate in working with police.
     
  15. Cazzie

    Cazzie This is love

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    I find myself going back and forth, in speculation and hope.

    But there's the HRD dog hit in the parents' bedroom. :( Not sure if it was an FBI dog or not...think so tho...FBI was definitely at the search warrant scene.
     
  16. Chris_Texas

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    They were questioned by people still operating under the impression that the timeline Debbie had provided was approximately correct. A whole lot has changed since then.
     
  17. gliving

    gliving Woof

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    I was reading past articles referencing Ms Short and found this dated Oct 21:

    "Thus far, according to Short, the couple has allowed police to:
    Take their computer; call an Amber Alert, knowing that it would bring federal investigators into the case; take their other two children for forensic interviews; have the complete run of their home, their vehicles, a shed and a pop-up camper; take DNA and other biological evidence; obtain Lisa’s medical records, including those for well-baby visits; and conduct a polygraph examination on Bradley.

    The couple also receives five or six calls a day from investigators, said Short, who estimated that Bradley and Irwin each have spent about 40 hours answering police questions since Lisa disappeared."

    Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/20/3220223/baby-lisas-lawyers-say-police.html#ixzz1cDSDqKMr


    Then we have this from Oct 28 in an article about the interviews being cancelled:

    "But Short said that if she has her way, the interviews with the brothers, ages 8 and 5, would likely never happen — for the sake of the boys and the case. The brothers were interviewed earlier, and she’s worried about additional trauma to them."

    "As in the first interviews of the two boys, police planned to use a specialist trained in child forensic interviewing to speak to the children in a non-confrontational setting.

    Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/27/3233889/interviews-of-baby-lisas-young.html#ixzz1cDTTQlex

    Not sure what I'm trying to address, but it does seem the boys have been interviewed by specialists. I guess I assumed it was social workers at the scene but it seems it was much much more.
     
  18. Abby Normal

    Abby Normal Inactive

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    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152258&highlight=Abby+Normal&page=7

    Dogs are made to hit on human remains, blood is a human remain. I don't think the dog is wrong/mistaken- I actually think it hit on just what we all fear it hit on, OR it was just THAT GOOD and detected something like blood.

    In other words, I agree that it looks quite bad. But I also think that we need to hold that knowledge while awaiting what further report of the "area" that was hit.
     
  19. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes Fasten your seatbelts...

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    I wasn't watching/listening, but it seems that JT said this morning on GMA that the boys have already been interviewed for five hours. Can anyone verify this? I thought it was more like half an hour for the younger boy and about an hour for JI's son.
     
  20. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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