I've thought a lot about what happened since day 31 and I'll admit, at first I thought this was an accident. I had a hard time understanding why a parent would harm their child and thinking it was probably an accident made it easier to accept.
Now, almost 3 years later, I believe I was wrong. Nobody goes from point A (oh my god my child has drowned) to point Z (bag the child up and throw the child in the trunk) that fast. When an accident happens it's human nature to scream out for help (911, neighbors, etc.). My little one fell off a table onto pavers a few years ago. I turned my back for one sec and she was up on the table and then off, boom. My first instinct, without thinking, was to pick her up and run like heck to the neighbor down the street who is a nurse! That's the biggest problem i have with this being an accident! (as well as 31 days, partying, and so on)
IMO she is not "innocent" and this wasn't a rage killing. She planned and killed Caylee to get back at her mother who was probably on the verge of ending the "gravy train" once she learned ICA hacked into Grandma's/Grandpa's checking account.
I'm going to play devil's advocate, although I shouldn't. But some might say that the child of a parent who doesn't care, can die accidentally or due to neglect and that the parent of such a child would not show normal, human emotion or motherly instinct at such a time because they don't possess it.
However, that scenario does not explain why such a parent would risk the death penalty rather than admit to an accident or neglect.
Oh No! Please! The last thing I want is any dissention or fighting over this, perfer to be somewhat open to the fact this could have happened. Well, for CA, it isn't just coincidence she was the one who was always there with a story, a blame, a call about a sighting, getting so involved with her calendar and notes. I have never to this day ever seen another grandparent or family member be that vocal and then go off the charts and blame the same LE that tried to help, turn against all of them. I'd like to ask her one of many questions, one being, why was there a need for her to go out of her way to make an anonymous call in to whoever it was and go through the spiel of seeing the little girl in the house with mother and grandmother on June 9 or was it the 12, think it was the 12? CA could have humbly called LE and said she made an innocent mistake, but then all three would have made the same mistake.
I really am looking forward to this so-called 31 day condensed into 1 minute opening statement or 1 a minute part that is going to clear up a lot of this mystery.
I am confused. Maybe I missed something but what anonymous phone call are you referring to? Thank you!!!!!!!
Fear of her father? I mean, we know her mother called her the "W" bomb at one time, and yes, I do beleive that much only because of the obvious control factor.
You are right though, nothing but NOTHING would keep me away from my child if something bad happened where I was told to leave, I'd find a way to take my child with me, I wouldn't be that threatened, but ICA could have been. Bottom line, there is nothing she did to help herself, but lie a lot, so nobody believes her now and will be hard at trial to believe her. Nothing is worth going through this, but then we don't know how dismal the situation at home could have been either. The lies will be everybody's undoing.
I believe that the family was and remains very dysfunctional. I believe that casey received horrible dichotomous messages from her mother, mostly and that her father was an ineffectual, generally passive parent, who sometimes tried to intervene but was shouted down by stronger personalities in the house.
I think casey was told, growing up, that she was a princess and perfect, could do no wrong and that anyone who dared criticize her was stupid, ignorant and lying. However, that message was reserved for anything that possibly related to acts on casey's part that "outsiders" could see, or when the family image was threatened by casey's behavior or outsider opinions. At such times, Cindy reared up in a protective mode and in fierce, illogical denial, goes my theory.
But the other message I surmise casey received was one from her pathologically enmeshed mother who saw casey as she secretly saw herself, and who desired to punish casey in order to destroy that which she hated about herself and which she secretly felt she was. That message was that casey was a very bad little girl, who always made mistakes, who was lazy, a liar, and later, a bad mother and who needed to be totally controlled by her own devoted mother to avoid catastrophe.
I believe this because I have watched them very closely and have experience with families that are similar, unfortunately. Anyhow the result of being raised with such dichotomous messages? I believe the result is a person who is initially vain and narcissistic, while at the same time self-loathing and terrified of her mother, of disappointing said mother and being shamed.
But it does not end there. Because people grow and learn from their experience and from casey's experiences she learned first how to lie and then that she had to lie and after that, that if she lied about something that her mother felt could shame the family name, the lies would be believed and supported. So casey became free, in a sense, of her mother's control. She grew to realize that she could do anything and if it could possibly be a source of embarrassment to Cindy, Cindy would help her to cover it up and would back off if casey's tantrums threatened to reveal the truth about the family.
And as casey grew older and realized that she had this type of control over her mother, the rage she had long suppressed from fear or a sense of powerless, at the angry, controlling parent who had unfairly "punished" her all her life and who she felt continued to do so in sick, little psychological ways, like taking over her baby, being the first to hold the child, even before casey, replacing the princess casey with the princess Caylee and further ruining casey's life by using the child as an instrument to make "unfair" demands on casey, like that she had to get a job or care for her own kid, and using the "greatest mistake" of casey's life to continue to try to shackle and control her, well, that rage transformed her narcissism and lying into something much more pathological and a sociopathic monster was born.
Is this sociopathic monster the quivering child full of confusion and fear of her wrathful mother that casey likely used to be at one time? Just listen to her calls from jail to home. Listen and watch the jail visits. Listen to witness testimony about how she talked about and treated her parents. Listen to witness testimony about how she reacted to them and how they deferred to her, not even daring to bring Caylee's name up when she was released from jail. I think once you do that you will see that the quivering child was replaced by a diabolical human being who learned how to manipulate the sick family she came from and who turned the tables, changing from the one who was afraid to the one who caused the fear in that household. :twocents:
Snipped with all due respect -
that's why I believe she drowned and was discovered a good deal of time later in a state that proved she didn't slip away in a split second but rather that she had drowned and remained in the pool for some time...thus making Casey guilty of neglect. Something she couldn't admit. Caylee perhaps was obviously gone beyond the point of summoning 911 for resuscitation. So it was a matter of "what do I do with the body" rather than "someone help !" So she quickly thinks "shovel"....takes the body out of the pool...that's too much work/too obvious whatever...so she puts her in the trunk. Casey is trying to come up with a story while little Caylee is in the trunk (loose hair) and decides in that moment the imaginanny is the culprit - grabs the bags, duct tape and Zanny becomes a killer. She only later becomes a kidnapper when a month goes by without anyone finding the body.
of course this is all wild guesses but it makes sense more to me than a MOTY snapping and chloroforming a kid to sleep.
I don't think she suddenly "snapped" and decided to chloroform her daughter. I think she planned it for some time and when certain things came to a head, decided, possibly somewhat rashly at that moment, that she had had enough, that time had finally come and that killing Caylee was the answer to all her problems. One doesn't research, make and use chloroform when they "snap".
Also, again, if it was an accident, why didn't casey ever admit to such, while in jail for almost three years and charged for first degree murder and facing the death penalty? That makes no sense to me. The investigators practically begged casey to admit to an accident. Her attorneys well knew that if they called the state and had one of those conversations that attorneys do, stating "Listen, let's say this was an accident. Let's say we are going to put casey on the stand to state just that. I think we can get a jury to believe that. What do you have to offer us?", they would have gotten a reception, is my bet. IMO, that conversation never happened. Why? Because it wasn't an accident.
. I was asking you about an anonymous phone call you stated Cindy made. Never heard that before. 
